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<oriansj>reading https://gitlab.libresilicon.com/manufacturing/manufacturing-process, specifically process_chemistry/process_chemistry.pdf there isn't much there

<oriansj>but process_implementations/hkust/steps_dry.pdf and process_implementations/hkust/steps_wet.pdf look do look interesting

<oriansj>^look do^do^

<muurkha>oriansj: also very small

<clemens3>just watched the from tinycc to nixos bootstrap video on yt

<clemens3>nice presentation.. btw, which tinycc version are you aiming at? i got 0.9.25 build on linux from scratch, except the documentation.. the two never versions the builds failed each one for me

<matrix_bridge><emilytrau> what compiler are you using to bootstrap tinycc?

<clemens3>gcc 12.2.0

<clemens3>or, sorry, not me

<stikonas>well, tcc bootstrap is basically a solved problem on x86 (and as of last few days on riscv64 too)

<stikonas>we can build tcc from tiny hex0

<clemens3>you talking to me?

<stikonas>clemens3: yes

<stikonas>so you can always use hex0 instead of gcc :)

<clemens3>ok, yeah, but i am just lurking, comeing like the nixos guy from the other side

<stikonas>though it involves a bit more scripting

<matrix_bridge><emilytrau> the tinycc to nix bootstrap specifically starts at tinycc 0.9.27 statically linked with musl i believe

<stikonas>well, that't a good point to start I guess

<clemens3>doing my own linux from scratch, aiming to go over time to more bootstrapping, but not from ground zero, but from high altitute

<matrix_bridge><emilytrau> which is different from what we use for bootstrapping from stage0

<clemens3>matrix_bridge: ok, thanks

<clemens3>and which one do you use?

<matrix_bridge><emilytrau> oh sorry i'm wrong, that bootstrap starts at tinycc mob with musl

<clemens3>ok

<matrix_bridge><emilytrau> i'm working on the bootstrap inside nixpkgs. we use a fork called bootstrappable tcc that can be built with mescc

<clemens3>ok, custom fork, makes sense

<matrix_bridge><emilytrau> gcc 12 shouldn't have a problem compiling tcc 0.9.27, or even the mob (unstable) branch

<clemens3>mob works for with 12.2.0. thanks! i try 27 again

<clemens3>bcheck.c:738: error: '__malloc_hook' undeclared

<clemens3>for 0.9.27

<clemens3>just in case, for me both either mob and 25 are ok to use

<matrix_bridge><cosinusoidally> tcc 0.9.27 is 6 years old. There has been some recent chatter on their mailing list about a new version, but I'll believe that when I see it.

<matrix_bridge><cosinusoidally> fwiw 0.9.27 will build fine if you have an older glibc, eg it builds fine on Ubuntu 18.04

<stikonas>also 0.9.27 builds fine with musl

<stikonas>which might be preferred for static builds anyway

<clemens3>yeah, on glibc 2.37

<clemens3>yeah, never got around to musl, but just looking a little bit into c after a few decades on java and ruby

<nektro>clemens3, is this the video u were talking about? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm8yrvbgY-Y

<clemens3>yes, that one!

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