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<Gooberpatrol66> https://github.com/gradle/gradle/issues/26516
<Gooberpatrol66>gradle team asking for more info about bootstrapping
<pabs3>ACTION wrote a comment, hope its ok
<janneke>pabs3: thanks, i think that was pretty ok
<janneke>if there are more questions you might mention directly why bootstrappable builds become more ipmortant:
<janneke>* non
<janneke>* non-bootstrappable builds may require running binary blobs "from the internet"; some modern distributions frown upon that (supply chain security)
<janneke>* modern distros (nix, guix) have packages in an acyclic graph, they simply _cannot_ have build cycles; and without adding binary blobs, an non-bootstrappable package won't make it into such a distro
<ekaitz>do you guys know about ROSE?
<ekaitz> http://rosecompiler.org/ROSE_HTML_Reference/index.html
<ekaitz>it's interesting but I don't think it's really useful for us here at the bootstrapping level
<ekaitz>anyone had worked with/on it?
<matrix_bridge><Andrius Štikonas> gradle closed it as wontfix...
<janneke>yeah, what a surprise
<Mikaku>hi, I'm seeing that tasks in issue #292 are not completing. It says it was expected to reach 1.0 version in July but the project seems completely halted to me
<pabs3>which issue?
<Mikaku>pabs3: <https://github.com/fosslinux/live-bootstrap/issues/292>
<Mikaku>some GitHub graphs (<https://github.com/fosslinux/live-bootstrap/graphs/commit-activity>) show almost no activity in this project since July
<stikonas>Mikaku: that's because we found kind of a blocker for 1.0 release
<stikonas> https://github.com/fosslinux/live-bootstrap/issues/306
<stikonas>and it's not clear how to fix it
<stikonas>(and despite the text saying, mes 0.26 would not fix it on its own)
<Mikaku>stikonas: I see, thanks
<matrix_bridge><Andrius Štikonas> Mikaku: other than that, live-bootstrap is not in bad shape
<matrix_bridge><Andrius Štikonas> It wouldn't just break...
<matrix_bridge><Andrius Štikonas> And I was also busy with bootstrapping on riscv64
<stikonas>Mikaku: speaking of non-x86 bootstrap, is Fiwix strictly x86 kernel or would ports to other arches be not too hard?
<stikonas>though we are nowhere close to kernel bootstrapping on riscv64...
<stikonas>(or x86_64)