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<theruran>via civodul: https://blog.josefsson.org/2023/04/29/how-to-trust-a-machine/
<stikonas>hmm, yes, I can't even build tcc 0.9.26 with mes on amd64 https://paste.debian.net/1279030/
<oriansj>stikonas: thank you for the reminder, stage0's submodules have been updated for UEFI and POSIX
<oriansj>muurkha: well sub 1K text editors are definitely possible. It is mustly a question of memory efficiency and editing efficiency.
<oriansj>janneke: yeah, we definitely started seeing a scaling law a couple years back and now all sorts of improvements and great ideas are bubbling up ^_^
<oriansj>emilytrau[m]: o/ thank you
<muurkha>oriansj: and sacrificing features
<emilytrau[m]>oriansj: could i trouble you for an update to the mescc-tools-extra submodule in stage0-posix as well? ^_^
<oriansj>emilytrau[m]: no trouble at all
<emilytrau[m]>ty!
<oriansj>muurkha: I believe that would fall under editing efficiency as virtually all of those features are directly tied to improving the editing experience to make it more user efficient.
<muurkha>hmm, I hadn't thought of it that way
<NickH>fu
<NickH>Sorry wrong terminal had focus.
<muurkha>bar
<janneke>stikonas[m]: it says: "parse failed", so that looks like a setup thingy
<janneke>(the register #false is collateral damage, mescc could handle that more gracefully)
<stikonas[m]>Hmm, that was the same setupnas for x86...
<oriansj>muurkha: I think NickH was more aiming for "fu"ture is now, bootstrapping Guix for the win. ^_-
<oriansj>stikonas[m]: yeah, interpreters which look at the environment tend to be much more touchy than compilers that ignore the world.
<NickH>Alias for "flatpak update*. Sorry to disappoint.
<oriansj>NickH: hey flatpak needs bootstrapping love too. So not really a disappointment as just a different area we can improve things ^_^
<stikonas[m]>doras already did most of the work for flatpaks
<stikonas[m]>Now they are also being bootstrapped from hex0
<oriansj>stikonas[m]: very true; but things can always be made better ^_^