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<fltrz>ls
<fltrz>anyone familiar with metamath?
<fltrz>I understand the verifier itself, but not the exact formalization in set.mm
<fltrz>I'm working on a proof (using mmj2), and got quite far, but I keep getting stumped on an embarrasingly fundamental step: proving a positive integer is a natural number
<fltrz>basically how do I prove |- ( ( A e. ZZ /\ 1 <_ A ) -> A e. NN ) ?
<fltrz>I'm wondering if I'm really supposed to drill down below the ZZ>= constructs?
<fltrz>oh I see, I'm supposed to use eluz2
<aggi>fltrz: an axiomatic statement cannot be "proven"; you may place any amount of apples on your desk, count them, and consider it _evident_
<aggi>anyway, wrong channel
<river>i don't quite agree, you can prove an axiom by invoking the axiom
<stikonas[m]>Then it's not am axiom but theorem in your logical system
<nektro>river's got it
<stikonas>oh, if you mean the same axiom, not some other axiom...