<oriansj>shall we use Haunt like the bootstrappable website? <oriansj>or is there a more accessable website generator which people like better? <stikonas>hmm, that's not really a wiki then, more like website <stikonas>but maybe we don't have much choice over wiki vs website <stikonas>hmm, possibly, I haven't used it but seems to have good reviews <oriansj>and it works on just plain text files which we can have in version control in a public git repo <stikonas>the other alternative might be just use wikis that come with VCS websites... <stikonas>maybe less flexible but might be cheaper <oriansj>well $5/month for a server isn't that much of an expense <oriansj>unless one counts the cost of the time required to properly maintain the server <oriansj>hence why I like the idea of pulling from a git repo. So that if anything goes sideways, we just nuke the server and do a git clone <oriansj>ideally the solution we pick wouldn't require javascript to view the content <stikonas>well, if server configuration is non-trivial, it's also good to put it into git repo (i.e. via ansible or something like that) <plasma41>IMO, git backed wikis that don't either have talk pages or support pull requests are pain for working on experimental edits requiring feedback from other contributors <oriansj>plasma41: didn't think of that, thank you <plasma41>oriansj: I find it especially frustrating that there's no mechanism to submit a pull request to the git-backed wikis associated with projects on Git{Hub,Lab}. <oriansj>plasma41: now what sort of tools/projects don't have that problem? <oriansj>plasma41: now that is a new one for me. /srs <plasma41>oriansj: It's a pretty nifty little system. <oriansj>plasma41: and the question was Genuine curiousity <oriansj>if anything I say can be considered impolite or inconsiderate or talking down to anyone. Raise it as a major issue as I love the people here and just want to help everyone as much as I can. /pos /srs /gen /p <oriansj>plasma41: of course. Are there any tools or projects that don't have that problem as I am not familiar with it enough to know myself. <oriansj>thank you plasma41, I'll take a look <plasma41>Sourcehut's "mailing lists as a first class collaboration mechanism"/"no accounts needed, just email a patch" design philosophy is a breath of fresh air compared to GitHub/GitLab and similiar forges. <siraben>"Says “free software,” not “open source.” (A6)" <stikonas_>well, gnu seems to be happy even with grade C ***stikonas_ is now known as stikonas
<oriansj>siraben: hence why a B grade isn't bad in this case <oriansj>stikonas: well anything below C is missing some rather basic functionality in terms of user freedom ***lukedashjr is now known as luke-jr
<yjftsjthsd3>On the wiki conversation: I would also advocate for backing it with git; I would personally suggest a normal git repo of markdown files, with a cronjob somewhere that pulls it, runs it through pandoc (or a static site generator if you feel fancy) and publishes the output via httpd <yjftsjthsd3>Sidestep the problem of "git repo but treated as a wiki in ways that undermines the usual git workflows" <yjftsjthsd3>Just as another well-meaning member of the peanut gallery:) <yjftsjthsd3>And separately, thanks for the "Tone indicator" article:) No idea why wikipedia thinks its mostly useful for people on the Autism spectrum; tone over text is infamous for being awful to read... <Hagfish>yeah, that was a fun and insightful article. and also from the peanut gallery, i'm wondering if there is a way of converting wiki <-> repo bidirectionally <pabs3>for mediawiki there is git-mediawiki, which lets you push/pull to a mediawiki remote <pabs3>seems that is in git itself now, I thought it was separate before <oriansj>Hagfish: absolutely, Dokuwiki would just require a cronjob to check in the state of the text files and do a git push <oriansj>although that produces problems if there is a merge conflict <oriansj>Hagfish: neat, didn't know mediawiki had that <oriansj>is it wrong I wish guix download supported --download-all-the-sources and created a folder with all of the sources referenced in guix