<stikonas>slightly ugly thing with sed is that we don't have tarball... <stikonas>only dirty source checkout with object files <Hagfish>it's weird that a problem with sed should end up affecting things, and even weirder if the problem is due to mes <Hagfish>i know sed scripts can get arbitrarily complicated, but i didn't think that many features of it were actually used in the bootstrapping process <stikonas>I think mes has a lot of stubs that break some things <stikonas>we didn't observe it too much when we were doing simple things like simple string substitution <stikonas>but autotools use all those other tools much more heavily <stikonas>I think pder already sent a couple of patches upstream <Hagfish>stikonas: that's great info, thank you <Hagfish>can you give an example of some deep feature of sed that autotools uses? <stikonas>well, the thing I hit was autoheader script <Hagfish>i see that LFS suggests running a sed test suite <Hagfish>i know it's not sed's job to find problems in mes, but it would be cool if that worked <pabs3>is there a way to contact rain1 when they aren't here? (want to ask about enabling the API on the bootstrappable wiki) ***janneke_ is now known as janneke`
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<pder>stikonas: nice find on sed. would you be able to push what you have as far as a new makefile? <stikonas>pder: I can probably go as far as rebuilding binutils, but might not be today... <stikonas>need to go grocery shopping this evening <pder>I wanted to try rebuilding or upgrading gawk <stikonas>pder: you'll probably need newer autoconf/automake? <stikonas>although, maybe it will be fixed if you just rebuild <pder>Also I can look at upgrading tar <pder>do you know if that autoheader problem has anything to do with bash, or was it just fixed with sed? <pder>stikonas: thanks. Currently I have the latest master commit 0d84a1c2dcdff1481dd1caf43 and it is failing with autoconf-2.13 <pder>oh it looks like you addressed it <stikonas>pder: it's somehow failing intermittently <stikonas>we have been building autoconf 2.13 for some time <pder>this is the first time ive seen that error ***warren_ is now known as warren
<stikonas>pder: we can probably get rid of tcc-mes and mes libc too now <stikonas>at this point I don't see where it might be useful anymore <pder>I agree that they could be removed. At some point it might be investigate what is broken in mes libc and fix it. <pder>s/investigate/good to investigate/