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<stikonas>hmm, no, perl 5.6.2 is still sometimes crashing
<stikonas>will probaby investigate some other day
<stikonas>although, it might be able to run autoconf
<stikonas>hmm, no newer autoconf might actually need full perl, not miniperl :(
<Hagfish>it's surprising this stuff ever worked
<stikonas>well, people used full perl...
<stikonas>nobody bothered to keep bootstrap path
<Hagfish>yeah, it just feels unfair that they were allowed to let the ladder beneath them rot away without it causing their house to fall down :)
<OriansJ>Hagfish: All civilization burns the ladders that they climb. See ease of finding cooper, Iron or Al2O3 ore over time. (feel free to repeat for any other natural resource)
<OriansJ>but we also tend to turn previously worthless resources into precious ones (lobsters under 50lbs used to be thrown back as being too small) because we burned though the previously available resources.
<Hagfish>humanity is at the awkward teenage phase of being just smart enough to be able to live sustainably, if we apply ourselves to the task, but also powerful enough to make some terrible mistakes
<pabs3>whats the right way to send (minor) patches for the website?
<stikonas>pabs3: which website? bootstrappable.org?
<pabs3>yeah
<stikonas>looks like repo is in https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix/bootstrappable.git/
<pabs3>yeah, I already made the patch, and sent it here yesterday via pastebin
<stikonas>maybe if you send it to the mailing list
<stikonas>somebody will pick it up
<pabs3>ok, will do
<OriansJ>Hagfish: here I was thinking toddler stage of development; as our civilization really hasn't gotten off the ground.
<OriansJ>pabs3: if I remember correctly rekado deal with bootstrappable.org so ping him.
<pabs3>rekado: in case you take patches for the bootstrappable.org site via IRC instead of the lists, a patch updating some links to https: https://paste.debian.net/plain/1186383/
<OriansJ>NieDzejkob: looks like your ember project has a pull request
<pder>stikonas: do you know what is needed to go from miniperl to full perl? Do we need binutils or gcc?
<OriansJ>and the first couple of string.h functions have been added.
<OriansJ>hopefully I didn't do them too wrong....
<pder>stikonas: I tried running autoconf for binutils and got the following error:
<pder>awk: /tmp/ac109920/finalize.awk:26: (FILENAME=- FNR=5109) fatal: can't redirect to `/tmp/ac109920/finalize.err' (No such file or directory)
<pder>Tried several directories. ld and bfd seemed to work
<fossy>hm
<fossy>how odd
<fossy>wait /tmp dosent exist
***Server sets mode: +cnt
<stikonas>hmm, I have some minor progress with perl 5.6.2, fixed one thing, so it can now rebuild itself, unfortunately, it still crashes on 5.18 regen_perly.pl (but regen.pl does work)
<Hagfish>thanks for the update stikonas. hearing about your progress (and all the progress in this channel) is something i look forward to every day
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<Hagfish>i wish this chat would stop moving around so much :)
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<Hagfish>well, at least it seems to be stabilising a little :)
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<Hagfish>monov: you probably shouldn't uncloak until junction00 gets their IP banned
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<Hagfish>you too wfranken, you're just burning IPs
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<Hagfish>don't say i didn't warn you ;)
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