<OriansJ>pity they got the endian behavior for hex2 wrong and missed the armv7l porting being done in Mes <OriansJ>as hex2 does both bit and byte, big and little endian (And I am not supporting the insane middle endian format) <OriansJ>but exciting to see someone doing a guix port <OriansJ>Hopefully it means janneke will be getting more help with MesCC <V>it's (as OriansJ said) insane <OriansJ>fossy: it is the immediate encoding format often found in CPU architectures that are too dominated by programmers and not electrical engineers <lfam>I appreciate wikipedia's comparison of middle-endian to "the standard American date formatting of month/day/year" <OriansJ>fossy: I figure by the year 999999, if anything I have done still matters; someone else will have fixed it by then. Otherwise it'll be long dead and forgotten; so who cares if it breaks then. <OriansJ>V: well bootstrapping is all about planning for problems that haven't happened yettfgbvhrdjeugrctthurbvdiibtkgrdftrhcldddttrlg <V>like a cat deciding to att-- <V>so your dates are all sorted but your machine isn't babyproofed :p <OriansJ>real hard to babyproof when he is an escape artist <OriansJ>he already figured out to how to bypass all babyproof locks and figured out a 4digit combination lock; right now the only thing stopping him is a deadbolt and a keyed lock <OriansJ>as he isn't 9months old yet; one could say we didn't expect the level of creativity displayed. <xentrac>/topic yettfgbvhrdjeugrctthurbvdiibtkgrdftrhcldddttrlg <xentrac>you didn't know you were spawning a Slan, eh? <siraben>how did they figure out the combination lock? brute force? <OriansJ>rain1: it is all cute and fun, until you have to explain to your wife why your 8 month old baby is on top of the fridge with a circular saw. <OriansJ>siraben: I'm thinking he simply saw his mom put in the combo and repeated the actions. <OriansJ>xentrac: I am not familiar with the Slan reference. <OriansJ>siraben: I am going to be honest. Somedays I wish I haven't given up Energy drinks. <xentrac>oh, an old sci-fi from the epoch when the popular understanding of evolution was still "lower organisms develop into higher organisms" --- the Slans were the "next step in evolution" after the humans, being, among other things, dramatically more intelligent <xentrac>the hero of the novel was a lone, persecuted Slan desperately trying to evade the humans' efforts to exterminate the Slans <xentrac>of course scientifiction fans loved this and started wearing T-shirts saying "FANS ARE SLANS" <OriansJ>interesting xentrac; I honestly was betting on the likely probablity of regression to the mean. <xentrac>maybe you were solving combination locks at 6 months <OriansJ>More like when I was 2-3; I figured out how to pick locks first. <OriansJ>I guess that is what I get for choosing a creative and smart wife. <xentrac>hopefully your kid doesn't have severe autism. growing up with mild autism in the US was hell for me, it's a miracle I survived to adulthood <OriansJ>xentrac: well I have facial aphasia; I am just hoping he doesn't get that too. <xentrac>there are more difficult things; a lot of kids with autism have the regular kind of aphasia, although early intervention can prevent that in most cases <xentrac>given that you wrote a C compiler in assembly in one day, you probably have some autism-spectrum features yourself :) <OriansJ>xentrac: unfortunately but it is the flaws that make people interesting. <xentrac>although it can be taken to undesirable extremes <xentrac>but society has a lot of incompatibility with it <OriansJ>xentrac: well that is the question of sorts; as most consider the ability to think clearly a flaw in others unless it directly benefits them. <xentrac>yeah, I think autism tends to make people think more clearly, so in that sense you could claim it involves the absence of a flaw rather than its presence <xentrac>but that comes at the cost of herd instinct <OriansJ>xentrac: well the circuits for that have to come from somewhere in the limited meat we call minds. <OriansJ>although better software can allow impressive results (knowing Newton's Laws adds 50 IQ points sort of thing) <xentrac>who was it who said that a science is a discipline in which the novices of each generation can surpass the achievements of the greatest masters of the generation before? <xentrac>some of that is also a matter of tools. I have an ATTiny45 here <xentrac>it's 9 mm x 6 mm and with an external crystal it can run 20 million 8-bit instructions per second <xentrac>it only has 256 bytes of RAM and 2K of Flash, which limits what it can *compute*, although there are things it can do faster than the 286-12 I was using in 1990 <OriansJ>one can buy a teraflop of processing power for under $99 <OriansJ>yet here I am using an x200 (which is 12 years old at this point) <xentrac>but what it can *automate* is flabbergasting. it can take 15000 measurements per second with, I think, about 0.3% error on four of its 8 pins, and respond to pin change interrupts in about 500 nanoseconds <OriansJ>what is amazing is one can get a 64bit computer with 4GB of RAM for less than a 2x4x20 block of wood. <xentrac>and 256 bytes of RAM and 32 registers is, from another point of view, 288 state variables. it can simulate a system with up to 288 state variables at 20 million arithmetic operations per second <xentrac>so you can build one hell of a PID controller with it ;) <xentrac>there are all kinds of elaborate mechanical contrivances of previous generations that you could replace it with <xentrac>a block of wood takes years to grow ;) ***efraim is now known as efraim1
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