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<fosslinux>is there a way for me to install guix from a already existing system, ie in /guix, without using the binaries?

<fosslinux>without using the binary install*

<oriansj>fosslinux: well yes, only needs only build the binaries and put them in the correct locations. I believe there is work in generating the shell script that does that

<fosslinux>ok

<oriansj>right now the bootstrap binary required is guile but that branch isn't yet complete if I remember correctly. (Janneke is pulling everything but it out of the guix bootstrap with the plan on replacing it with mes-m2)

<oriansj>That way one could simply run kaem --verbose --strict in mescc-tools-seed and generate the guix bootstrap binaries from hex0

<oriansj>The current process however is a bit more complex and requires a good few more binaries being built if I remember correctly.

<fosslinux>so I'm trying to get rust bootstrapped on void linux

<fosslinux>I keep running into issues with libressl versioning

<fosslinux>how do you guys work with issues with old dependencies being needed

<fosslinux>just package them up?

<fosslinux>especially with core dependencies like this

<oriansj>fosslinux: unfortunately yes, old packages are sometimes required (like Gcc 4.7.4)

<oriansj>it is one of the things other distros can leverage guix to deal with (so they can stick with just the packages they care about)

<stikonas>fosslinux: do you need old llvm too for rust?

<stikonas>or does rust 1.29 build with a fairly recent llvm

<fosslinux>oriansj: yeah, i'm running into issues with libressl

<fosslinux>it wants libressl 2.7, but i cannot figure out how to get that to replace libressl in void linux (since it dosen't have the notion of slots or anything)

<fosslinux>and then it looks like i'll need almost every rust version up to the latest :|

<oriansj>fosslinux: yep, bootstrapping is still one hell of a messy process. Bootstrapping every language thus far has been one nightmare after another.

<fosslinux>yeah

<oriansj>fosslinux: those languages left to bootstrap are freaking monsters

<fosslinux>seems like void linux devs are uninterested in bootstrapping rust

<fosslinux>"we don't want to have 10+ versions of rust" essentially

<oriansj>fosslinux: sounds very common

<fosslinux>yes...

<fosslinux>makes me even more tempted to switch to guix

<oriansj>fosslinux: guix is not all or nothing, you can bring guix to any distro and keep the advantages of that distro while taking advantage of the features provided by guix

<oriansj>when and if you want to

<oriansj>One can extend guix to build packages for any distro; thus reducing the work required for incorporating reproducible/bootstrappable builds into the distro of your choice.

<fosslinux>hrm, interesting

<fosslinux>this is strange:

<fosslinux>trying to compile mes 0.21.... guild (2.0) fails on compile.scm

<fosslinux> https://ttm.sh/E2b.txt <--- output of command that faisl

<fosslinux> https://ttm.sh/E2i.txt <--- build.log

<fosslinux>janneke: ^

<fosslinux>wow, golang is nice and easy to bootstrap

<fosslinux>gccgo and then one version up to 1.13

<fosslinux>also mes error with guild 2.2

<janneke>fosslinux: could it be that mes cannot find nyacc from looking at your GUILE_LOAD_PATH?

<janneke>try something like export GUILE_LOAD_PATH=/usr/share/guile/site/2.2/:...; and reconfigure

*janneke will be afk most of the day

<janneke>i just tested with guile 2.0.14 and nyacc-0.99.0, should work

<fosslinux>most likely yes

<fosslinux>I'll try that when I'm back home, thanks

<oriansj>Morning, I guess I should work on mes-m2 today (tempted to just add conditional execution to kaem)

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<fosslinux>janneke: thanks it is working now!

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