<sneek>lfam, janneke says: i reverted my kernel to 5.4.18 but that didn't fix it; my last OK reconfigure was ~10 days ago, but sadly uses master from 30 dec
<smithras>OriansJ: I agree. It would be nice if we always used the tagged release commits to build the ISOs, because then you could always use '--branch=v1.0.0' for example to verify then in guix time-machine
<lfam>Of course... it comes with 8000 lines of Rust packages
<OriansJ>smithras: of course all of this ultimately become a non-issue when mes-m2 is finally done; as then there is only a single 357byte binary in the bootstrap chain (or add a second 737byte shell if you want to do an init bootstrap)
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<bavier`>anyone here use the "onion browser button" in our icecat and notice that when enabled you aren't actually connected to tor?
<guix-vits>Maybe the security politics of engine which IceCat uses isn't allow the addon button to do much? I'm just sure, that if one set the proxy in Settings, it will even not load any page without working tor.
<morrigan__>My vm build seems to be going alright. I've got to head out now, so I'll just let it go. I will report it if I find another bug
<bandali>guix-vits, yeah, but the add-on shouldn't give false positives anyway
<bandali>hmm, latest version seems to work fine on debian
<bandali>actually, this seems to have do with something in icecat
<bandali>the extension doesn't report a false positive on debian's firefox-esr
<bandali>but it does on an icecat i'd built on debian, as seems to be the case with guix's icecat
<morrigan__>I'm back, it's giving me a nondescript build error. It also says the error may have been caused by a lack of free disk space
<Demosthenex>and if you scratch out mentions of windoze (i don't care for it either), i'm poking around in the packages list and trying to find a virtualization solution. clearly virtualbox isn't fully OSS, so the question remains what is recommended for virtualization on guix?
<guix-vits>I'm at the first few pages of SICP. The idea that the code is for humans to read, and only to be ocassionally run by machines, is hitting. Sometimes, it's all almost looks like a "pictures". Despite the fact of my ignorance about the `2>&1 |`, until it was presented to me yesterday.
<nckx>kahiru: Then I don't know ☹ ‘guix import gem clamp’ actually works for me on a fedora machine with 0 Guix packages installed (not even bootstrapped, in fact) and no SSL-lookin' vars in ‘env’.
<nckx>guix-vits: When you get tired of typing ‘2>&1 |’ you can use ‘|&’. But the former is much clearer.
<raingloom>i think gdm is broken again. i'll make a proper bug report later.
<nckx>kahiru: Even ‘env -i guix import …’ works. This is /usr/bin/guix, though, and has never been pulled. Maybe that matters. I don't understand how it could, but here we are.
<roptat>civodul: ci is consistently failing huix-modular-master on armhf and àrch64. It seems to be due to guile3.0-git, but I successfully pulled on my armhf system yesterday. The build log says it failed after 1 hour of silence, so maybe you could restart the evaluation?
<efraim>i'm building subversion without static libs now, will test after
<nckx>Which reminds me… g_bor[m]: Have you published anything on your automated installer?
<raghavgururajan>bandali Hmm. How did you start jami from terminal? Suddenly neither jami nor jami-cient-gnome does not work.
<bandali>raghavgururajan, ah i'm not currently using it in guix, but i have it installed on a debian machine and on an android phone. i was looking for instructions/documentations on configuring a linphone sip account in desktop or mobile jami clients
<raghavgururajan>bandali I see. I just wanted to see the config screen so that I could remember what I did. Could you send me a screen shot please?
<bandali>raghavgururajan, sure, i'll /msg you in a bit
<thomassgn>anyone know why I can't get mysql/mariadb running? I've got this config: http://dpaste.com/2VM83H8 As it is I get errors on the mysql-config part. If I just write (mysql-service) I can build this config but it throws me a rescue shell on boot... Removing mysql service altogether gives me no errors - and no sql service :)
<ATuin>I need some help with guix, when running "guix system reconfigure" (updating to kernel 5.4.20) the new kernel is not able to load any kernel (same behaviour in 2 different machines). Has any one experience this problem?
<joshuaBPMan>I know right? Someone here told me gave me that suggestion. That's how I've been reconfiguring. I suppose you could modify your initramfs, which would be a cool thing to learn about, but that is another solution.
<joshuaBPMan>also, I do have a question...let me know if this question doesn't belong in guix.
<ATuin>well the problem is that there is a list of modules loaded lazily ... the initramfs worked for the ethernet and the gpu (since i thought at the beginning that was the problem)
<ATuin>but i doubt i can load everything needed there
<mfg>Hi, so i'm trying to read command-line arguments with guile. i currently try: (open-input-file (cadr (command-line))), because i want the first argument. this doesn't work because it isn't a string... how do i make this a astrng in guile?
<joshuaBPMan>I'm a little concerned, because guix does not provide the cpu-microcode updates from intel, which alledgedly leave my computer vulnerable to spector stuff. What are the security ramifications of not using the cpu microcode updates?
<lfam>Honestly, if it is a personal account in the USA I wouldn't worry about it. The way that banks handle fraud for personal accounts is very good for customers. If it's a business account then you need to take security seriously
<ATuin>hh is it not easy to use an old computer instead for that? :)
<lfam>I'm not saying you *should* keep your password on the computer. I'm just saying that if somebody steals from your account, the bank will make you whole, if it is a personal account. If it's a business account you will be screwed and should have insurance
<lfam>It's not really something you can meaningfully impact one way or the other
<lfam>Your account is constantly under attack. The banks use machine learning heuristics to decide which charges are legit. People are constantly trying to steal your money and the bank will not tell you about it unless they are actually unsure
<nckx>joshuaBPMan: Sure, it does (mine shaves a few seconds). But specifying a few known modules does not a custom kernel make. You win much more by disabling whole features, most of which are not modular to begin with.
<nckx>Don't focus too much on kernel boot times, Guix boots a lot slower than other distributions and none of that has to do with the kernel. Plenty of lower-hanging fruit before you get to that point.
<mfg>NieDzejkob: (command-line) only consists of two elements so this should be the same. I found out that i have to (apply string-append (cdr (command-line))) to make it work. Makes sense to me but seems awkward to me :D.
<nckx>joshuaBPMan: Mainly for fun, and because I'm a control freak, and because I do use a few kernel features that [I] haven't Guixed yet (e.g. pstore), and because it's the best way to learn, and after that a very good way to stay abreast of kernel news, and because I've used the same (ever-updating) kernel for the past ~20 years which is a nifty feeling, and because I apply all kinds of zany patches (-pf, bcache, tuxonice, previously Wireguard), but ‘fun’ covers it.
<nckx>Guix makes it a lot more fun, too. I can keep different commented/abstracted kernel configurations around without losing my way or mind.
<ATuin>that's why i got another disk, i want an alternative i feel confortable with just in case
<drakonis>sounds like an alien parasite lives inside the debian
<nckx>Guix will work fine and (in my experience) ignore any old distro files but of course you'll never have that squeaky clean feeling. Which is why I don't use it. But it worked once, in an emergency, and I was thankful.
<drakonis>i'd prefer to move everything to another dir before that
<nckx>drakonis: People informally call it ‘borg-ing’ your system.
<ATuin>can this be possible: "guix init /etc/system.scm /guix-root"
<lfam>I feel like it must not or the commits would not have been pushed
<nckx>Ah, OK, your ‘have we narrowed down’ implied the same to me. Thought maybe you were one of the unaffected.
<ATuin>ahh i forgot, one more question. The other day i extended the docker service to be able use a daemon.json file but seems that the docker.scm does not export the docker-configuration and son (just the service-type if i remember properly). Why is that? What are the benefits of it?