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<AppAraat>oh derp, I had to replace *system* with my arch ***catonano_ is now known as catonano
<brendyyn>would be nice if guile-emacs could be made to build again ***Noctambulist is now known as Sleep_Walker
<eubarbosa>it is kept updated with the latest Firefox version. ***rekado_ is now known as rekado
<rekado>civodul: I’ve pushed the new blog post and updated the guix.info blog, but I haven’t yet done the CVS dance. <civodul>i think Gnulib had a script to upload web pages, but i've never used it <rekado>but maybe we needn’t bother if the DNS magic turns out alright and we can rid ourselves of CVS. <rekado>so, I’ve been working on an NFS service. <rekado>it almost works (mounting fails with permission denied), but I’m unhappy about the user interface. <rekado>the nfs-service-type provides a list of shepherd services that need to be started together. <civodul>(and yes, let's focus on getting rid of CVS...) <rekado>but it also depends on the existing rpcbind-daemon service <rekado>for those we already have system services <rekado>I don’t like that users have to add those obscure services to their configuration <rekado>can we declare system service dependencies (other than extensions)? <civodul>rekado: nfs-service-type could extend them, and that would caused them to be automatically "pulled in" if they aren't already present <rekado>I hadn’t considered this, because it seems backwards to me <civodul>i'd say nfs depends on these, and "depends" ~= "extends" ;-) <rekado>not sure how to configure those extended services <civodul>should you send the link to rb-general? <rekado>they posted links to participants’ reports on the r-b.org website <bonfus>Hi! This is just to let you know that I managed to install guix on SailfishOS with this slightly modified verision of your script: https://hastebin.com/yogiwaciru.pl . Now it's taking forever to build curl but everything seems to be ok on the package manager side! <rekado>brendyyn: are you playing with selinux file system labelling? <tune>if I can't ssh to my guix machine by host or ip from another machine, what service should I restart? 'sudo herd restart networking' did not do it <vagrantc>there's a bug that causes ssh (or sshd) to not start sometimes <tune>looks like ssh-daemon is running, just term-auto and user-homes are not <tune>assuming the + is running and the - is not running <tune>avahi-daemon is also running or else I may suspect that <tune>although ip didn't work either so maybe that wouldn't have been up <tune>oh darn it. I was getting the ip wrong. I forgot this router is .10 instead of .1 for second to last number <tune>updated situation: I *can* ssh by ip, but not by host <tune>and restarting avahi does not do anything either <rekado>civodul: nice use of inferiors. Should I reconfigure berlin? <rekado>oh, new version of Blender is out! Any takers? <civodul>rekado: not yet! i'm updating the guix package, but after that yes <civodul>rekado: i'm starting pull/reconfigure on berlin in root's screen session <tune>civodul: I tried restarting the ssh-daemon and had no luck still <tune>I can ssh into the machine by hostname from itself, just not other stuff <tune>maybe it's not broadcasting the hostname properly for some reason <tune>not sure if this would be a guix problem or a router problem ***joshuaBPMan is now known as cra044cra89
<cra044cra89>What's the status on the guile build daemon? Can we replace hydra with it yet? <amz3>cra044cra89: you have mistaken your login with a password <amz3>cra044cra89: you are getting started with guix/guile? <EternalZenith>Is there a reason why sudoedit isn't in the %setuid-programs list by default? <cra044cra89>amz3: I currenly use guix on Parabola. I'd like to use guixSD eventually. <civodul>rekado: on berlin i see things like: "make: gnu/system/examples/lightweight-desktop.tmpl: Timestamp out of range; substituting 2514-05-30 01:53:03.999999999" <rekado>I don’t know where this comes from. <rekado>I checked all the build nodes and their times are within reasonable ranges. <rekado>(they aren’t all in sync, though, which is odd.) <EternalZenith>Does vanilla Firefox licensing prevent it from ever be included with the other packages in the main repository? <amz3>IIRC the license is ok, but the trademark is not. <EternalZenith>I wasn't aware that trademarks like that made something be considered non-free, although that makes sense <EternalZenith>I've read about that fiasco before, hence why I was asking whether Firefox would ever be available by default <EternalZenith>I've had some issues with Icecat and addons, and beside that I don't really want to be stuck on an esr release <lfam>Is it possible to specify a local Git repository as a package's git-reference? <lfam>I tried with and without a 'file://' prefix but it still says "fatal: '/home/lfam/foo' does not appear to be a git repository" <amz3>EternalZenith: Someone on #guile made good progress to bind gnome-introspection aka. gi. That might mean that a guile powered browser might be reality <amz3>EternalZenith: I don't know about the support of web developper tools in that "future web browser" <EternalZenith>Next Browser and Qutebrowser are interesting projects, but I've heard they have quite a few security issues <amz3>EternalZenith: by sandboxing, I assume it's processus sandboxing where each tab or group of tab get its own process <amz3>EternalZenith: javascript is supposed to be sandboxed already... <EternalZenith>amz3: I need to remember to prefix my messages with usernames <amz3>EternalZenith: that. is. alarming. <EternalZenith>Whenever I've run "guix gc" in the past, it always fails partway through with "guix gc: error: build failed: executing SQLite statement: FOREIGN KEY constraint failed" <pkill9>EternalZenith: I'm getting that error <EternalZenith>pkill9: I've always gotten that error whenever I run it, but I've never seen anyone mention it anywhere before <pkill9>I haven't run guix gc in ages, but i needed to a few days ago and i found that i get that error almost every time, unless i specify -C 1M which limits it to a megabyte of space to free up, so I don't know when i got it <civodul>EternalZenith, pkill9: that's really fishy, you should report the issue <EternalZenith>civodul: Do I just send a message to the bugs-guix mailing list? <civodul>EternalZenith: yes please, but also make sure to state what version you're using and how you installed it <EternalZenith>civodul: Is there any specific format the message needs to be in, or should I just try to make the report clear and descriptive? <rekado>EternalZenith: no specific format needed. <civodul>rekado: i realized that our build nodes have old versions that lack 'guix repl', so offloading doesn't work right now <EternalZenith>Also: has anyone gotten flatpak working? The package was added a few days ago, but I haven't been able to get it to do anything <EternalZenith>It seemed to be missing some dependencies, but I found those and all it does is segfault <rekado>what do you mean by “I found those”? <EternalZenith>rekado: I installed those manually, seperate from the package itself <EternalZenith>I think it was just gnutls, glib-networking, and gsettings-desktop-schemas <rekado>are you using Guix on a foreign distro? <rekado>could you please also report this as a bug? <EternalZenith>I was just wondering if anyone else had it working, and if I might have done something wrong <EternalZenith>Should I make the missing dependencies a seperate issue, or lump them together into one report? <rekado>EternalZenith: let’s keep them in one report; we’ll figure out if they are related later <rekado>civodul: looks like Guix on the build nodes is also too old for “guix copy” to work… <EternalZenith>Is there any reason why "sudoedit" isn't included among the default %setuid-programs?