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<rain1>I have a fresh install of GuixSD

<rain1>I want to make a package now and I am wondering if I need to build guix from source and stuff, or should I just make the package definition in a new file (and if so where is the guide for that)

<rain1>oh should I make my own channel for this?

<lfam>rain1: If you intend to contribute the package, or do further development, you should clone our Git repo and work within that. Otherwise you can make your package as a standalone file, either with channels or a directory in $GUIX_PACKAGE_PATH

<lfam>For the former, you want the first two sections here: https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/en/html_node/Contributing.html

<lfam>Here are the docs for channels: https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/en/html_node/Channels.html

<lfam>GUIX_PACKAGE_PATH is simply a directory containing Guile modules with your packages

<lfam>It is superseded by channels

<rain1>thank you

<rain1>interesting

<rain1>I see that node (js) is packaged

<rain1>but i can't find any applications that depend on it

<rain1>searching with grep -R node | grep -v '.po' | grep -v graph | grep -v '.cc' | less

<rain1>Is there any nodejs applications packaged I could use for reference?

<rain1>grep for npm gives few results as well

<safinaskar>hi

<safinaskar>i typed "guix graph --type=bag-emerged coreutils | dot -Tsvg"

<safinaskar>and i see two coreutils packages in output

<safinaskar>why?

<safinaskar>at the top of graph i see /gnu/store/ddlgwpishzb8985gwg5fdrydvllg254a-coreutils-8.30.drv

<safinaskar>it depends on "perl", which itself depends on coreutils, but this is another coreutils, namely: /gnu/store/9nf7ya3b3d1cqfs54w69rrhnlnrypah3-coreutils-8.30.drv

<safinaskar>why this is possible

<safinaskar>and how to construct graph starting from second coreutils, i. e. /gnu/store/9nf7ya3b3d1cqfs54w69rrhnlnrypah3-coreutils-8.30.drv ?

<safinaskar>*guix graph --type=bag coreutils | dot -Tsvg

<nikolice>wanted to ask: anyone has flash in "Epiphany" web-browser?

<nikolice>as it's in GuixSD "desktop" scheme install, with no need to add an "IceCat"

<nikolice>maybe it can be done by dropping some files into "gnu/store..." hell; but which plugin - PPAPI / NPAPI ?

<nikolice>(and, yes: in IceCat - flash is fine)

<thang>The loop described at https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/en/html_node/Build-Environment-Setup.html#Build-Environment-Setup isn't working.

<rain1>How do I search for a program? I want 'tree' right now for example

<rain1> https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/packages/T/ i didn't see 'tree' here

<rain1>oh its on pg 3 but i still want to know a way to find programs

<nikolice>rain1, i try "guix package -s what_to_search"

<rain1>thanks!

<nikolice>rain1, some those basics are in a video on Guix main page (https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/)

<necrophcodr>Is it possible t limit building using guix package to a certain load average?

<necrophcodr>As is possible with make, and Gentoo's portage?

<efraim>You might be able to limit it with niceload from parallel

<necrophcodr>efraim, how would i use that? or rather, what is it?

<j3kyl_>gnu.org/software/parallel

<necrophcodr>How would one couple that command with running `guix package -i [package]` and have it work for all dependencies being built?

<efraim>necrophcodr: sorry, i'm on and off and around on my phone some of the time

<efraim>It's worked well enough for me to run 'nice guix package ...' and I haven't run into problems

<efraim>I do remember however that someone did actually 'nice' the daemon and ran into test failures on some packages that expected to be able to renice as part of a test suite

<efraim>instead of nice I sometimes use 'niceload --hard --noswap --nice 10'

<efraim>same nice value, much harsher on the build process

<epicmorphism>so issues.guix.info still doesn't load for me. where can i report a bug on the guix.info web site?

<Formbi> http://termbin.com/ggm9

<Formbi>what is this?

<brendyyn>I was able to update to this commit a few minutes ago without issue.

<tune>still getting red squares instead of checkboxes in firefox, and a bunch of pages are using my monospace font instead of a more normal one

<tune>also I've installed the ibm plex font and and fc-cache -fv and rebooted but still I can't see it as an option anywhere

<tune>s/and and/and done

<brendyyn>should glib-locales be installed to user profiles even on guixsd?

<brendyyn>/gnu/store/k7qnbby0czdjh0fyg0maj4airh1la983-grub-2.02/sbin/grub-install: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sdc. Check your device.map.

<brendyyn>I'm getting this but it's the same os config i've been using for ages. have some breaking changes been made?

<brendyyn>Ah nevermind, looks like since one of my drives died, the lettering has changed. I'll have to figure out how to use the id instead

<bavier>tune: is the "use system fonts" config enabled in your icecat?

<apteryx>hello Guix! Would someone know which package provides 'chrpath'?

<tune>bavier: I've seen what you're referring to in the past, but I'm not seeing it so far

<tune>I had "Allow pages to choose their own fonts, instead of your selections above" checked under the advanced font preferences, but checking it doesn't change anything

<tune>had it unchecked I mean

<tune>currently I've searched 'font' in about:config and I'm looking for anything with status set to modified and then resetting it

<apteryx>chrpath looks like it's its own package, from Debian.

<apteryx>I'll give it a shot, must be an easy one.

<bavier>apteryx: patchelf might do what you want?

<apteryx>it's a requirement from bitbake (which comes from Yocto)

<apteryx>but thanks for the pointer :-)

<apteryx>Should we have our emacs snippets (for yasnippet) installed in ~/.config/guix/current/share/emacs/?

<apteryx>I used to refer to these by: ~/.guix-profile/share/emacs/yasnippet-snippets, but this requires to install the guix package itself, which is bad practice.

<bavier>apteryx: ah, I see

<apteryx>epicmorphism: to report bugs, simply send an email to bug-guix@gnu.org. You can browse the opened bugs here: https://debbugs.gnu.org/guix

<apteryx>epicmorphism: the guix.info tracker while promising is still a work in progress

<apteryx>ugh. it seems the package only exists as debian sources, and I have no idea about how downloading the latest version of it. There's a git browser here: https://sources.debian.org/src/chrpath/0.16-2/, but there doesn't seem to be a clone URL.

<apteryx>maybe I could fetch it from softwareheritage?

<apteryx>arf... there's an API

<apteryx>I was expecting some direct link.

<apteryx>oh well :-) time to move on

<janneke>o/

<bavier>hi janneke

<bavier>awesome work on mes lately!

<tune>what do I do if my newly installed font doesn't appear anywhere even after fc-cache -fv and several reboots and such? something must be misconfigured or something

<tune>I wonder if some of these problems are due to having an old install that didn't deal well with some changes

<janneke>bavier thank you!

<THFKA4>is there a GuixSD channel for ARM?

*janneke has to leave for dinner with R-B folks

<efraim>THFKA4: we haven't split up so much as yet, so here's probably the best spot

<THFKA4>cool, thanks

<efraim>anyone know how many characters we wrap the manual at? it looks like 72

<bavier>what's this with software now using the date as the release version?

<efraim>YYYYMMDD works quite well

<efraim>i'm more concerned about figuring out how to merge master into core-updates, that's like 1500 commits

<efraim>although I suppose now would be a good time to have libstdc++-boot0 for aarch64 be gcc-5 and not gcc-4.9 since we don't need the intermediate step

<pkill9>i have a package that has the 'target' argument set as 'i686-linux' with glibc as an input, and I'm getting an error message: "In procedure inputs: In procedure private-lookup: No variable bound to glibc-for-target in module (gnu packages base)". I think it's because 'glibc-for-target' was removed in guix commit 2d546858b139e5fcf2cbdf9958a17fd98803ac4c

<pkill9> (http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/commit/?id=2d546858b139e5fcf2cbdf9958a17fd98803ac4c)

<bavier>pkill9: I got that a few days ago, needed to 'make clean-go' from my git checkout

<pkill9>ah, I deleted ~/.cache/guile and that fixed the problem, thanks

<pkill9>when you use channels, does guix have to compile all the channels into one channel, so for example, it has to recompile guix itself each time? i'm guessing no

<efraim>i experimented with making a channel, a typo made mine fail

<efraim>in the mean time there had been no new commits to guix proper so it skipped rebuilding that package cache

<Formbi>what it going on with «;;; missing interface for module (gnutls)»?

<Formbi>is*

<tune>Migrating profile generations to '/var/guix/profiles/per-user/root'...

<tune>guix pull: error: symlink: File exists: "/var/guix/profiles/per-user/root/current-guix"

<tune>how do I stop this from always happening?

<apteryx>Is there a way to used a gunzip'd diff as a patch?

<pkill9>i have the same issue tune

<pkill9>but with current-guix-n-link

<kkebreau>Formbi: I'm not sure, but I've gotten that message a few times in the past.

<bavier>apteryx: I think gnu-build-system will automatically handle origin's that are listed in the 'patches' field, but I'm not certain

<apteryx>bavier: doesn't seem to unzip gunzip'd files automatically

<apteryx>We have an example as libpng-apng

<apteryx>But now I'm hitting something truly weird; patches succeeds when I do it manually, but when I call the same command through (invoke "patch" ...) it fails on some hunk. I could recreate the issue at the REPL; it makes no sense.

<apteryx>bavier: if you'd like to see it to believe it, try: https://paste.debian.net/1055402/

<apteryx>crossing my fingers that I'm just doing something silly :-)

<apteryx>maybe some locale/encoding issue... ?

<kkebreau>If the method for installing a kernel is signing and writing it to its own partition, can the GuixSD installation code do that?

<apteryx>Can I load a persistant profile in "pure" mode?

<apteryx>Because: unset GUIX_PROFILE && source ~/.config/guix/some-profile/etc/profile will mix that profile with my current user profile

<quiliro>hello

<quiliro>A guile warning ocurrs about `GUIX_LOCPATH'.

<quiliro> on a foreign distro

<quiliro>It is resolved by adding:

<quiliro>export GUIX_LOCPATH=$HOME/.guix-profile/lib/locale

<quiliro>to .bashrc.

<quiliro>It works for:

<quiliro>guix package -I

<quiliro>guix package -l

<quiliro>-l and -I

<quiliro>But the problem persists even after this addition when executing:

<quiliro>guix package -i

<mbakke>efraim: I tried merging master into core-updates and hit no conflict.

<efraim>Last time I tried I had some missing patches or extra patch files in gnu/local

<mbakke>Oh, interesting. Didn't finish building yet, I'll push the merge if it looks good.

<kkebreau>Having stability issues with PrawnOS on the Asus C201. :(

<mbakke>kkebreau: Ooh, I hadn't heard of PrawnOS before. What kind of issues?

<mbakke>Maybe I should brush the dust off my C201 :P

<kkebreau>mbakke: Seems like USB power shuts off instantly and the system freezes. I just rebooted it.

<kkebreau>mbakke: Btw, PrawnOS is just a Debian setup specifically for the C201.

<kkebreau>No blobs or anything funky like that.

<bavier>apteryx: could you get by with just `gunzip revision_patch.diff.gz`, i.e. without the redirections?

<bavier>apteryx: too bad (@ (guix packages) patch-and-repack) doesn't handle gzipped patches. It'll handle origin patches though.

<apteryx>bavier: I need the redirection (as in libpng-apng) otherwise gunzip tries to modify the source file in place (that doesn't fly since the gunzip'd patch is under /gnu/store)

<bavier>apteryx: you could copy the file to the build directory

<apteryx>yes; I'll try it, but I don't think that is the problem (the error message is a hunk failure -- other hunks succeeded)

<apteryx>the hunk failure only happens when using Guile with invoke

<apteryx>let me try :-)

<bavier>oh ok, right, that'll require some more work then

<kkebreau>Hmmm, I'll be back in a few hours.

<apteryx>yeah, the problem is not with gzip, this part work alright

<apteryx>it really only has to do with the patch invocation through "invoke".

<hurozh>If I install a Guix binary as root via the shell script given on the site for it and run `guix package -i emacs`, it'll only install Emacs for the root, right?

<apteryx>yes; guix works per user

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