<daviid>baconicsynergy: it's ok. I read here that they have their own push gateway, but they do use gaagle FCM and ipple APN, unfortunately (hence the push norification is (config wise) optional, users who do not want to be tracked by gaggle nor ipple can desable it ... it's seems that today, the only full (complete) and free (freedom) solution to this problem is matrix/riot (but on mobile, Riot consume the hell of a lot of the battery ...
<daviid>I use linphone, which is a good app, but it uses the push FCM and APN (which I diabled, but my contacts do use those ... then I'm still trapped in being tracked ...
<brendyyn>apteryx: it claims to but im not sure how it works when its pure p2p
<brendyyn>apteryx: i was under the impression ring was rather unusable
<brendyyn>daviid: one step at a time. there cant be a perfect solution over night
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<daviid>brendyyn: sure, that was not my claim, I was looking to share informtion about other potential solutions I wouldn't be aware ... but there are solution(s?) already (matrix/riot is one of them, I hope will see many more in the (near) future
<daviid>linphone is an old app, so my understanding is that the team is not (that much concern) with the problem
<daviid>but again, slightly OT for this channel, sorry
<brendyyn>But it must be able to chat with people that don't have purism phones, naturally
<daviid>brendyyn: it will chat with anyone installing (using an account) matrix/riot, and besides, librem 5 phone users stull may install and use other solutions, GNU Ring, Linphone ... basically anything that is in Debian (and I guess Guix will also run, at some point, on the librem 5 phone as well ...)
<brendyyn>We need to get Guix on to it so we can take over the world
<daviid>brendyyn: I believe guix will run easily (as a host)
<daviid>brendyyn: sure, that will take quite a lot more time though, imo, it will need to have all the components drivers up and runnng in guix ... beautifull goal, I'm all for it, but it won't happen over noght (someone just told me this haha ...)
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<sturm>Hmm, it looks as though I'm not getting anything from ~/.guix-profile/etc/bash_completion.d/, which is sourced in /etc/bashrc. Is /etc/bashrc something Bash should be sourcing by default, or should I be running it my .bashrc?
<sturm>Well, I've now added `source /etc/bashrc` to my .bashrc, which seems to do the tric
<apteryx>brendyyn: you should give it a try; it works well, especially on GNU/Linux.
<buenouanq>icecat screenshot --fullpage isn't working for me anymore
<g_bor>rekado: would it be possible to move the pkg-config files to their own output?
<g_bor>It might not be such a good idea, but could break the loop...
<allana>rekado: I am using GuixSD almost day-to-day for the purpose of a development environment. At work I am using NixOS under VirtualBox for the same purpose but I would like to replace it with GuixSD. The one piece I am missing is the VirtualBox Guest Additions. It is packaged for Nix. I don't at this stage have the technical knowledge to package the guest additions, so I guess that I will add it to the wishlist. Thanks.
<g_bor>allana: we recently had a discussion about packaging the guest additions, and came to the conclusion that because it is non-free it will not be packaged for guix.
<g_bor>You can request someone to do it for you, but it will not make it to upstream guix.
<rekado>g_bor: this might work, but I think it’s a bit heavy-handed, because lots of packages would have to be modified to not only include “glib” but also “glib:pkgconfig”. Patching these files seems to work fine.
<g_bor>We also have the same freedom issues with recent versions of Virtualbox itself.
<demotri>allana: I'm unsure about the guest additions. Chances are they are really GPLv2 and thus free. Though normally they are just distributed as an iso-image to mount a "CD" and install them as binaries.
<demotri>lsl88: I also noticed some problems with the guix.info manual, but did not report: There is some problem with the CSS, the source code examples don't have the brown background. And as many people have reported, the link to the manual 404s.
<lsl88>civodul: you don't have to thank me, It was just a line. And I always ask because I am new, and I don't know if it is OK to change things on my own. I don't remember if I mentioned it, but sometimes while reading the documentation I find things that I find confusing - think of me as a user, that is new to guix, which in fact I am - When I was trying to install guixSD on bare metal, I found the reboot command for instance like kind of hid