<swedebugia>fps, unfortunately I don't understand how to do what I want as the examples are not near what I want. I think I have to use (map (match-lambda and that is not among the examples... <fps>you have a two lists, a list of packages and a list of blacklisted items? <fps>and for each package in the list of packages you have a list of dependencies? <fps>i'm not a scheme hacker of any capacity, just trying to clarify the problem :) <fps>so, do you have working code using map-lambda that returns a function which matches fine for an individual package? <fps>you might have one indirection too many. you could just (map (your-matcher ....) list-of-packages), no? <fps>nah, just ignore what i just said.. ;) <swedebugia>fps, thanks for trying to help :) I posted to the list. We will see what comes out. I have a function in npm.scm which calls a proc: blacklisted? that returns #t if the package in question is in the blacklist. <swedebugia>Now I want to regex match against the list so rollup matches rollup-plugin because they begin the same. ***jonsger1 is now known as jonsger
<Swedneck>alright, i've got guix installed in my fedora 29 VM :D <enderby>has anyone else's 'guix pull' command taken 20+ hours ***catonano_ is now known as catonano
<apteryx>enderby: hmm, it used to be very long, but 20 hours, hell no :-) ***rekado_ is now known as rekado
<rekado>enderby: it also depends on what it’s doing. <rekado>enderby: if you end up compiling large amounts of build dependencies on slow hardware it can take quite a while. <rekado>if that happens you should double check that substitutes are enabled and that you are fetching substitutes from berlin.guixsd.org as well (because that’s where substitutes for the “guix pull” derivations are built). <enderby>rekado: thanks. I just ran it again and it finished in a normal amount of time, so idk what it was doing last time <bavier>rekado: do you mind if I update the neovim package? <rekado>bavier: I don’t mind. (I’m not using it myself.) <bavier>ok, just saw you had added it, np :) <rekado>heh, a user at the institute had asked for it back then. *rekado rebases the wip-gnome-upgrades branch <jbw1111>Hi, I've lost my root password for my guixsd machine so I'm trying to get into single user mode, but I'm failing. Appending "single", "1" or "init=/bin/sh" to the linux line in grub doesn't seem to change anything, and still ends up with shepherd booting up normally and leaving me at the login prompt. <jbw1111>What do I have to do to get into single user mode in Guixsd? Alternatively I could boot from a liveusb and chroot. <fps>jbw1111: i'm not sure. but take a look into the shepherd manual <fps>it's guixsd's init system <jbw1111>I managed to boot into an early boot guile shell, but it was pretty impossible to change my root password from there. I ended up using the installation usb to chroot and change the password <rekado>wip-gnome-upgrades no longer builds fine. <rekado>A couple of packages with meson-build-system don’t include the subdirectories of $out/lib any more. <civodul>rekado: oh, is this due to changes that were made in the meantime? <efraim>nss doesn't build on master anymore and I gc'd the one I had on my aarch64 board <rekado>it used to build on the old core-updates that it was initially based on. <rekado>just rebased it to current core-updates <rekado>I hope I’ll get to test the newer GNOME soon. <efraim>i'm working on removing ffmpeg-2.8 from core-updates, just have to test that the freerdp update didn't break vinagre <civodul>efraim: i pushed a fixed for nss in core-updates <civodul>efraim: BTW, i re-plugged the overdrive that you host in berlin, and it seems to be working well so far <civodul>could you check once in a while if networking is okay? <efraim>civodul: yep, I see it every time I go up the stairs. I turned it back on about 2 hours ago <rekado>civodul: I asked IT to give me the complete firewall rules so that we can compare them with our requirements. <civodul>rekado: cool, thanks! for now the armhf builds take place on the overdrives <civodul>efraim: if you find that it becomes too unreliable, please tell rekado or myself so we can remove it from machines.scm before it becomes a problem <vagrantc>civodul: do you set the personality to linux32 or something? there are a number of things that will build incorrectly with the wrong kernel <civodul>vagrantc: yes the daemon uses personality(2) <vagrantc>some programs will, say, enable 64-bit features even on a 32-bit build... <vagrantc>there was literally a post earlier today/yesterday about one <civodul>i mean, how is it different from i686 builds on x86_64? <vagrantc>civodul: different specific problems, same types of issues :) <vagrantc>civodul: the i386 builds running an amd64 kernel for debian's reproducible builds has found a few issues relating to embedding the kernel options, but maybe setting the personality fixes that <vagrantc>any idea off-hand how much disk space linux-libre 4.19.5 takes on aarch64 ? <vagrantc>i mean the build process, not the resulting /gnu/store/ ... thingy <civodul>vagrantc: re kernel details in the build output, these are bugs in general for Guix <civodul>i don't know how much disk space is needed for linux-libre <vagrantc>after days, i've got guix pull to a recent guix, and u-boot-pinebook built, and building linux-libre ... i might actually be able to test guixSD on the pinebook eventually :) <vagrantc>i should just build a test image on a faster machine ... <rockandska>I previously asked on ML if there was any possibility to read a manifest file from stdin but didn't had an answer, is there anyway or plan to implementing it ? <civodul>vagrantc: soonish we'll turn on builds for the "modular" jobset (i.e., guix pull) for aarch64/armhf <civodul>so hopefully you'll be able to pull much more quickly :-) <vagrantc>and that will also bring in a handful of basic dependencies for other packages too <vagrantc>did the substitute servers used to have more aarch64 builds? <civodul>berlin.guixsd.org has aarch64 substitutes for core-updates but not for master <vagrantc>so if i were living even more on the edge, i could get substitutes :) <brendyyn>Nix's full system tests, like running bittorrent tests seem super cool! <civodul>wait, Guix system tests are super cool too ;-) <brendyyn>It would be great to develop similar tests for guix, maybe even a sort of high level fuzz test, like specifying parameters and generating random virtual machines with various network configurations etc and defining some automated test <brendyyn>cool. maybe ill come up with a test do define one day <rockandska>civodul: Hi, any thoughts about my previous question ? <civodul>rockandska: ~/.guix-profile/manifest cannot be passed to "guix package" <civodul>there's no concrete plan to implement it <civodul>instead i'd suggest using the --manifest option that already exists <rockandska>civodul: yeah i know, we discuss about it a few months ago, that was not my question here :) <rockandska>civodul: but even with --manifest, we can't provide it through stdin or a fiel descriptor <civodul>do you feel like it's an important feature? <rockandska>civodul: for my little project / use case yeah. I already explained it on ML but could provide you the link where i explain my use case <civodul>well no, i'll read the message when i get there <rockandska>civodul: it was explained when we discussed about the confusion between --manifest and ~/.guix-profile/manifest <civodul>roptat: no; you did receive my second email tho, right? <civodul>maybe i need to change the subject line <civodul>roptat: BTW please take a look at the TRANSLATORS comment in guix.texi since you won't see it in the pot file ;-) <civodul>colleagues also asked for --with-commit so i'm adding it now <jonsger>civodul: --with-branch=guile-gcrypt=master looks a little strange, maybe --with-branch=guile-gcrypt:master is better *janneke adds `mv' command to gash <civodul>jonsger: oh, that was for consistency with --with-input *rekado reconfigures with the new GNOME <rekado>I just pushed a new version of wip-gnome-upgrades, rebased on top of core-updates. Feel free to test this on your own systems! <rekado>I hit another problem with tensorflow. <baconicsynergy>I'm so proud of my laptop and software right now ;_; 100% RYF hardware, 100% free software. Full disk encryption with libreboot, bleeding edge software with parabola and reproducible builds with guix. so happy <rekado>The cmake build system doesn’t install any libraries; worse, it doesn’t even build shared libraries at all. <rekado>everything is built as objects that are then used to statically link useless executables. <rekado>the cmake stuff is deprecated; going forward they will remove all cmake files and make it only work with bazer. <rekado>…which we cannot build from source yet. <rekado>guess I’ll have to try to make progress on bazel then :( <rekado>does globbing work when using “invoke”? <rekado>I have this: (invoke "ar" "-r" "libtensorflow.a" "*.o") <rekado>or should I splice a find-files list? <rekado>rebuild tensorflow again. Let’s see what happens. <civodul>rekado: nope, there's no shell involved so no globbing <civodul>instead you have to use find-files, indeed <rekado>civodul: do you know where I should submit my talk proposal for FOSDEM? <rekado>I accessed penta, but I can only see FOSDEM 2016 there. <rekado>on the devroom page I see no contact either. <civodul>rekado: not sure exactly, it should be on Penta *civodul hasn't submitted a talk yet <ng0>where do we keep the binary gdmd? <ng0>maybe I'm approaching this the wrong(most complicated) way, for now. Is there a better way to process swf video files outside of a browser than to dissasemble them and work the host specific swf into your own fork of youtube-dl? <rekado>ng0: what kind of thing should “gdmd” be? <ng0>yes, but last time I tried gnash was many years ago and it wasn't usable. now flash is on its way out, maybe gnash got better. <ng0>idk, something a compilation of RADCDAsm with rdmd is throwing at me *civodul doesn't know what gmd and RADCDAsm are <rekado>rdmd is a disassembler (framework), no? <rekado>(there are so many tools that use this arrangement of letters) <rekado>it’s probably easier / more productive to try gnash and then make a few changes if the file isn’t fully supported. <rekado>“Assuming you have git and a D2 compiler, such as dmd or gdc installed, compiling should be as straight-forward as: …” <rekado>“Substitute dmd with gdmd if you're using gdc” <rekado>so: it is the executable of the D compiler. *janneke has now reached scheme-only bootstrap install phase of mes <civodul>i need to look at the bootstrap tarballs again *civodul finally upgrades whole user profile to core-updates \o/ <civodul>speaking of which, is anyone still using Conkeror? <rekado>I thought it died with the new Firefox? <rekado>with the birth of the new Firefox, that is <civodul>yes, so i keep an old version, which is obviously very bad <civodul>i guess i'll have to stop, but it saddens me <civodul>it also means we may have to remove the package altogether? <baconicsynergy>noob question: where should I place "export PATH="/home/foo/.guix-profile/bin${PATH:+:}$PATH" to make it persistant? <janneke>civodul: i haven't found a more keyboard-friendly graphical browser than conkeror <janneke>browsing the web, i usually do M-x eww, conkeror, *enable touchpad* icecat <janneke>tell you what? conkeror has emacs-like bindings and can be used without a mouse <civodul>i meant tell me which browsers you use <janneke>yeah, if those fail, fallback to icecat and mouse-shoving <janneke>oh, i dropped emacs-w3m for eww, it has improved <rekado>I’m again between browsers. I use *both* epiphany and icecat (because I have used tabs in both), but I’m not happy with either of them. <fps>i wonder how much duplication is in nars in a typical system.. <baconicsynergy>I wish icecat had more people working on it. it's a noble goal for a web browser <fps>i.e. how much space savings would we win if we would push the binary distribution [e.g. via ipfs] to a lower level than nars.. i.e. distribute the nar contents on ipfs which would do the deduplication.. <rekado>ooh, nice: “The following grafts will be made” — I like it! <rekado>I’d guess that there’s quite a bit of duplication there. <fps>[the ipfs-nar could be a meta file describing the CIDs of the contents] <fps>i wonder what precisely this tells me: <rekado>store deduplication saves me dozens of GB. <fps>4.5G /home/fps/.ipfs/ <fps>and the complete content of cache is added to ipfs <fps>oh, that's even on the level of blocks with nar files.. without even splitting out the contents <fps>[where cache is the directory i store the narinfos and nars i pulled from berlin in] <fps>rekado: there's store deduplication in the store already? <fps>redundant redundancies are redundant :) <civodul>fps: what throughput can one hope for over IPFS? <civodul>is it supposed to be super-mega-fast like Bittorrent? <fps>civodul: that's the idea.. let me try something.. :) <nly>I tried adding contents of my /nix/store to /ipfs/ which must have been 15Gb-ish, left it overnight and it didn't finish, sadly, before i killed it :( <fps>the 8G are added in a couple of minutes in my case.. hmm <fps>locally i retrieved a file of 138M in 18s.. <fps>from the same ipfs node i added it to.. which tells us not much ;) <nly>rate of 8GB in minutes is awesome :D <nly>what kind of hardware that is? <fps>some vm on a hetzner root server <fps>i completely fail to get the same CID from my home machine right now though... the swarm has size 1 though ;) <fps>civodul: interesting. right now after you asked it seems ipfs doesn't provide any throughput AT ALL ;) <rekado>bleh, the tensorflow build failed at the last moment because of a missing -fPIC somewhere. <civodul>you'll make it, i'm sure you'll make it! :-) <civodul>and you'll make a lot of people happy, too <rockandska>civodul: did you had the time to take a look at the need to have the possibility to read the manifest file from stdin and/or open an issue in case someone will have the time to take a look at it please ? :) <rekado>rockandska: is there a bug report about this? <roptat>civodul: we have the new po files available \o/ <ng0>btw: guix is hip enough now to be recognized by neofetch :D <ng0>Packages: 1435 (emerge), 131 (nix), 733 (guix) <nly>I made a change in gnu/packages/audio.scm but do i need to run ./bootstrap; ./configure; again ? <civodul>roptat: you should blog about our i18n efforts! <roptat>we still have no idea how to localize the website, right? <fps>hmm, it seems i drank the coolaid a bit too early.. downloading content from my cache via ipfs is abyssimally slow.. since i'm the only one requestiing the content and a single node is providing it it should boil down to a point to point connection <rockandska>rekado: just talk about it on devel when we talked about the confusion with profile manifest and --manifest, but i will write about it specifically in a bug report :) <fps>[ports are forwarded just fine on both ends] <fps>i wonder how the ipfs people modified the original kademlia XOR routing to make it so bad :)) <fps>slightly jumping to conclusions here.. <civodul>roptat: i thought we did? IIRC someone (Florian?) came up with a complete solution a while back <nly>'./pre-inst-env guix package' is not showing the changes in my checkout? <bavier>does our icecat include the "Tor Browser Button" by default now? <rekado>hmm, the new gnome-shell fails to start <bavier>I have a project here that says some files are under gplv2+, but that the project as a whole is under gplv2. Does that make sense? <bavier>can anyone give a concise summary of the differences between ffmpeg and libav? ***slyfox_ is now known as slyfox
<mbakke>bavier: 'ceph' has a mixture of GPL2/GPL2+ too. <mbakke>I think the libav fork is no longer maintained, no? <yrk>bavier: mixing gplv2-only and gplv2+ is fine. in that case the work, as a whole, can only be distributed under gplv2 <yrk>bavier: the gplv2+ parts can be taken out, upgraded to gplv3+ and included in a separate gplv3 work <yrk>bavier: this is because the so-called "+" merely provides the option of upgrading to a later version under, in this case, section 9 of GPLv2 <lsl88>hi! :) this is a quick message to say that I successfully installed guixSD on bare metal. My retroPC found and OS for her ;) <swedebugia>I succeded in adding the blacklist function for recursive import of npm packages! Hooray!