<nckx>mbowcutt: Hm, so your device doesn't even show up? How about ‘ip link’?
<mbowcutt>I skipped over the wired connection in 6.1.4, thinking it was unnecessary if I only cared about wifi
<thomassgn>mbowcutt: I'd try opening a terminal and running 'tail -f /var/log/messages' in one, and maybe 'dmesg -w' in another and then pulling the card out. wait a sec and then plug back in again. Follow the output from those commands...
<nckx>Copenhagen_Bram: Be sure to use the ‘fetch-git’ method and not ‘fetch-url’ with an auto-generated GitHub archive tarball (those are flaky). Although it sounds like the former was your plan anyway.
<nckx>Copenhagen_Bram: I was kidding a bit. It's not considered a good habit, but I'm sure thomassgn knew that. And to be honest it's probably the lowest-bandwidth method: download the snapshot tarball, then have Guix clone the repository and adjust the hash.
<thomassgn>oh, artanis commands fail because it expects a file, '/etc/artanis/artanis.conf'...
<nckx>Indeed, it's a workaround. It only becomes a problem when people turn it into a habit and blindly trust the error message, so I wanted to scare you from the start. :-)
<nckx>^ How I feel when people say ‘RAM/disk space/... is cheap’.
<nckx>Copenhagen_Bram: Which ‘terminator’ would that be? I found a Java terminal emulator of that name, from 2008. Might not be the best packaging experience either.
<nckx>OK, C-DDA.git's hash should be 1fqn9zfdvw1m6hh8imsx9v7i06pjlfxxmvpwm42ig2ph9fsfk0lj (calculated with ‘guix -rx’). If you get a different result later, please say so. That would imply the manual is wrong or at least misleading.
<vagrantc>-r for recursive, and -x for exclude vcs ... if i'm remembering correctly
<apteryx`>nckx: cool! will try if I get my src/guix to build (complaining about: WARNING: 'aclocal-1.15' is missing on your system.). I'm using pre-inst-env
<nckx>apteryx`: make clean-go && re-bootstrapping will fix that.
<Copenhagen_Bram>apteryx`: guess i'll try removing the attempt at adding another user
<nckx>Copenhagen_Bram: I was just typing the same thing as apteryx`. Smells like a configuration error, though that's absolutely no excuse for such an inscrutable error message... if you can even call it that.
<apteryx`>strange... can't even run bootstrap: Can't exec "autopoint": No such file or directory at /gnu/store/aqzb6lm1vmz14rp899lqmi6pr35ycgx6-autoconf-2.69/share/autoconf/Autom4te/FileUtils.pm line 345.
<nckx>apteryx`: Are you in a guix environment guix?
<apteryx`>oh, nevermind, I'm dumb (I had exit from the environment)
<brendyn>--with-source is telling me it had no effect but the source file is clearly different. It has the same file name too.
<brendyn>nevermind I figured out the basename stuff
<reepca-laptop>I'm so sad right now... right as the 2.7GiB download of texlive-texmf-2017 finished, I got "guix package: error: build failed: reading from file: Input/output error". So now I have to download it all over again
<wingo>ACTION also interested in this emoji sorcery!
<reepca-laptop>just had to add (set-fontset-font "fontset-default" nil "Unifont Upper" nil 'append) to my .emacs and have Unfiont Upper installed - I can't quite remember which package it's from
<reepca-laptop>and there might also be some xset stuff necessary, but I haven't restarted my session yet to figure out
<wingo>ah i use hexchat, maybe i need to install unifont or something
<tune>Yeah, and I use irssi. I'm gonna install unifont and see how that goes.
<reepca-laptop>turns out emacs figures out fallbacks for "script"-type characters differently from emojis and such, so they just hard-coded a default of "symbola". Which is weird, considering the licensing issues I think it has preventing us from packaging it.
<brendyn>ng0: I noticed you are hosting many font files because they are updated in place. I'm maintaining font-cns11643 in Guix but it is also updated in place regularly, but I don't have anywhere to host it
<snape>in the Debian message, everything the author wants is provided by the GPL...
<rekado_>I’ll look at it right away if you can tell me the bug number.
<rekado_>ACTION is procrastinating to avoid working on something important but unpleasant
<ng0>I want to communicate about my current work more clearly once I have something of more substance to point at. ludovic knows, so far. https://debbugs.gnu.org/db/30/30385.html <- vim build system. I can point to the current version in my tree, no idea if I did more work on it
<ng0>brendyn: size is okay, but archive.org would work too
<brendyn>I tried adding it to archive.org but after a minute or so I'd get gateway timed out trying to save it
<ng0>I've been using that for some fonts myself. like, I *think* I could not host this one font I'm using myself
<rekado_>I’ve never heard the term “putonghua” used for written language.
<ng0>now that I'm thinking about it.. I think I will probably write a 'plant export-guix' command to create patches, since my layout differs but there are similarities which make it still easy to copy and apply.
<rekado_>(but maybe it’s used differently on the island)
<brendyn>Because the usage of the word putonghua is not exactly equal to that of "Mandarin". It literally means common-speech, which is used more when refering specifically to Standarin Mandarin. Mandarin actually has a bunch of words for it's self: putonghua, zhongwen, hanyu, guoyu, zhongguohua, and even classical terms like guanhua
<brendyn>Taiwan has Taiwanese Mandarin, which just means Mandarin as spoken by Taiwanese people, like the term "Australian English". They also have a separate language called "Taiwanese" which is as different as English and German
<snape>and a message saying you can't reconfigure :-)
<ng0>oh, writing about the bugtracker.. I've been thinking of reporting the rust related bugs so that they are open to track and close. I don't know who's aware of what needs to be done for rust integration to be finished on our side.
<brendyn>I think My AMD Fury x graphics card doesn't run as fast with linux-libre though. glxgears ran at 300 fps on trisquel, and 11000 fps on Arch Linux, so perhaps there is some binary blob included that makes it faster
<rekado_>speaking of bad GPUs: I have a Thinkpad T60 (x86_64) on which both Epiphany and Icecat keep crashing, and I suspect it might be due to the graphics chip / driver.
<bhougland>Hello, I want to install GuixSD on my laptop, but it is not Libreboot compatible (x1 carbon gen 1). I hope it will be in the future as Coreboot just got support. Anyway, are there instructions for using the non-free linux kernal? I know this goes against the spirt of the FSF, but I really want to try GUIXSD on bare metal.
<roptat>bhougland: you don't necessarily need a non-free kernel even if you don't have libreboot
<roptat>my desktop computer has a propriatory bios/firmware, but I still use linux-libre
<efraim>I have the linux libre kernel on my macbook 4,1 and all I lose is my wireless
<bhougland>roptat: really? would i just have to replace my intel wireless?
<Rukako>rekado_: does guix support reading the emacs repositories?
<Rukako>or does one need to manually add the packages
<brendyn>bhougland: spacemacs isn't packaged for guix or nix because it is built to automatically download packages from melpa. spacemacs would require some modifications for it to work with the guix package manager
<brendyn>Guix's ability to have per user profiles is a "feature", but the ability to install global packages is also a "feature" and i'd say is the most common way one wants to install a package, but guix makes this less convenient
<rekado_>reconfiguring the system after installing a package into the global profile would remove that package again.
<brendyn>I didn't know it was possible to manually edit the global profile
<ProfessorDey>rekado_: Hey, wondering if you can help with a small issue. For some reason, after uninstalling and deleting everything guix related, then reinstalling because I messed up the store, suddenly running guix system doesn't work, I just get the error of `guix: system: command not found`
<ProfessorDey>rekado_: via the normal emerge -a guix, which appears to be a binary install of the bootstrap, which then builds guix with a make command
<rekado_>ProfessorDey: I don’t know about the Gentoo package for Guix (it is not maintained by the Guix project). Looks like it would need to be fixed to add a suitable version of guile-sqlite3 to the dependencies.