<Sleep_Walker>can I define environment in similar way how I can define package?
<Sleep_Walker>or it's actually the same object but how it is handled is in different way (no record about being part of system profile, no build system just exec of shell)
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<ajjlmau>how should I configure my system if I would want to login with getty and use startx to start window manager?
<rekado_>ajjlmau: have you searched the GuixSD manual for getty yet?
<ajjlmau>rekado_: yes, but I'm not still sure what I should do
<ajjlmau>I don't know maybe I should just use slim or sddm
<allana>Hi, I am getting a few errors when trying to import a nix package. The first one is "In execvp of nix-instantiate: No such file or directory". I have cloned the nixpkgs repo to my local machine, under ~/projects. Following the guix documentation, I have set NIX_REMOTE=daemon and ran the example: "guix import nix ~/projects/nixpkgs/ libreoffice". Can anyone help me by letting me know what I am doing incorrectly? Assuming user error here.
<thomassgn>mmmm, hadn't realized there was a new guix pull, and it receives "fatal: early EOF" and some other warnings... Is this a known problem? My network connection is not bad, but does have dips in connection...
<rekado_>thomassgn: are these errors reproducible?
<thomassgn>don't know. But have been trying for maybe half an hour-ish bnow.
<thomassgn>I'm getting a warning about "error: Server does not allow request for unadvertised object 486de7377f25438b0f44fd93f97e9ef822d558b8" (I say warning cause it continues working...)
<rekado_>thomassgn: I saw that too. This might be a change in github.
<caffe``>has anyone here ever gotten b43-open to work? if it matters, my card is the same revision 5 as noted in "Hardware Considerations": " those using Broadcom/AirForce chips (BCM43xx with Wireless-Core Revision 5), which corresponds to the b43-open Linux-libre driver. Free firmware exists for both and is available out-of-the-box on GuixSD, as part of %base-firmware (see firmware)."
<bavier`>caffe``: AFAIK we've had at least one other user use b43-open successfully
<caffe``>as-is with the minimal template, the firmware fails to load, citing "Missing Free Firmware"
<caffe``>though the correct location is found in /sys/module/firmware_class/parameters/path
<caffe``>and the firmwares are in the location it points to
<caffe``>if i manually run 'rmmod' then 'modprobe', the firmware loads, but still fails with "Dual-core devices are not supported"
<efraim>i assumed it wouldn't load on my machine because it connects to the same interface as the proprietary b43 driver
<thomassgn>rekado_: didn't know, is this new behaviour or am I just noticing it for the first time?
<rekado_>thomassgn: it’s been like this for a while.
<rekado_>thomassgn: in the past “guix pull” would download the complete repository snapshot
<rekado_>now it uses git to download just the difference.
<caffe``>sorry i'm sounding sour here today/yesterday.. guixsd is a very nice system, and i'd like to stick with it and possibly contribute. it's just frustrating to find that it's almost useless on any of my laptops, as well as with hardware claimed to be supported 'out of the box' that i specifically tracked down so i could use at least one laptop with guixsd.
<caffe``>and it's also frustrating to see that most of the bugs i run into were reported long ago, and still left unresolved
<Sleep_Walker>I'm building curl against MIT Kerberos5 instead of GNU GSS - do you think it would be acceptable change or I should keep it for myself? I have difficulties using GNU GSS and MIT kerberos might be more common
<jonsger[m]>rekado_: nice paper, at least the parts which I could understand :) is there no table about the "not reproducable" packages?
<rekado_>jonsger[m]: no, there’s no table for the packages that are not reproducible. I see that this might be interesting, though.
<rekado_>I guess I can add it to the supplementary materials.
<Sleep_Walker>last time I had this card (probably different revision) was the cheapest solution to buy something else
<Sleep_Walker>zybell_: so you're saying that the GSS as we packaged it is wrong?
<caffe``>"WiFi devices known to work include those using Atheros chips (AR9271 and AR7010), which corresponds to the ath9k Linux-libre driver, and those using Broadcom/AirForce chips (BCM43xx with Wireless-Core Revision 5), which corresponds to the b43-open Linux-libre driver. Free firmware exists for both and is available out-of-the-box on GuixSD, as part of %base-firmware (see firmware). "
<caffe``>if b43 is indeed 'cursed', whoever wrote that didn't get the memo... and i bought the card based on that info.\\
<bavier`>caffe``: like I said earlier, the b43 firmware was confirmed working by at least one user before we added the documentation and put the b43 firmware in %base-firmware
<caffe``>ssb0:0 Missing Free Firmware (non-free firmware loading disabled) (I've verified the firmware is indeed in the right location, and is correctly referred to by /sys/module/firmware_class/parameters/path)
<caffe``>when i rmmod b43 and modprobe b43, the firmware then loads, only to give me this: Dual-core devices are not supported (despite this being a model listed as known to work)
<caffe``>i can type the results a third time if that helps
<caffe``>or, in a nutshell: the same thing happens. $(guix build firmware) > /sys/module/fimware_class/parameters/path results in the same contents as before in /sys/module/firmware_class/parameters/path
<caffe``>and you get the same dmesg results as before, unless you rmmod before modprobe... in which case, the firmware appears to load, but results in the error claiming Dual-core devices are not supported.