<mubarak>finally I did install GuixSD without facing errors
<ng0>could we accept ScummVM without the proprietary engines? I haven't had the chance the launch any of my old games yet, but I made a package of it a couple of weeks ago
<mubarak>accually their is one this that get me a little upset, which when we install GuixSD for the first time and reboot and on the new system you want to install new programs like ntfs-3g, vlc ...etc . guix package manager will try to update the system(which means downloading the whole thing from the bootstrap-binaries ... to the end) and I already downl
<mubarak>oad that in the installation, why guix try to download all these packages again? its all in the /gnu/store/
<ng0>and I think when configure runs you get a message about engines and how they are classified
<efraim>mubarak: so it looks like the user that you're running `guix pull` with hasn't run `guix pull` yet, so its downloading everything from the 0.14 release to run guix pull
<mubarak>I'm currently logined as normall user, and I run-ed "guix package -i vlc" and normal user without doing "guix pull" first. So I did "su -l" and said I sould download vlc as root but it also tried to download everything
<mubarak>efraim: if it did "guix pull" as a normal user could solve it
<efraim>mubarak: it would update the package definitions for whichever user you run it for, for your user or for root
<mubarak>no it tired to download everthing starting from make-boot0-4.2.1 and gcc-bootstrap0. I canceled it
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<efraim>unfortunately it's possible that the binaries from the 0.14.0 release were garbage collected :/
<mubarak>right!, build(you mean compiling software)?? no I don't think it compile anything. It download all the packages from hydra
<mubarak>also I login-ed the first time, i can't login as normal user because their is no password. And as root I can't connect to wifi using wpa_supplicant or networkmanager(in GNOME), it thought maybe because in root I'm not part on netdev group(Note: that networkmanager find the name of wifi(Mobile Hotspot) but it cannot connect to it), so I login-ed as
<mubarak>a normal user and it connected successfully.
<thomassgn>mubarak: set your users password with 'passwd YOUR-USERNAME' you can do this as root for other users also.
<pkill9>hmm, looks like hmm doesn't seem to generate it
<mubarak>thomassgn: yes! , I think it relates to user groups. normal user part of netdev group, but root has access to everything, thats what confuse me. I will try to add root to netdev group and see if it connect to wifi.
<bavier`>alex-vivo: yeah, we have tor, but not the browser bundle
<bavier`>alex-vivo: there are many here who use tor through other means though
<alex-vivo>bavier`: so the browser bundle is not included because it uses firefox esr under the mozzila license?
<alex-vivo>will try to be inclusive with my language, it's just that I have used guys to refer to people for many years in my life, but I agree that it is gendered language for no particular reason.
<bavier`>alex-vivo: same here; it comes naturally after a bit
<bavier`>alex-vivo: re tor browser: its more that the packaging is difficult
<alex-vivo>bavier`: I see, so a similar reason like parabola's iceweasel e.i. nobody has gotten around to it just yet?
<bavier`>and we'd want to verify our packaging doesn't invalidate some of TBB's anonymity features
<bavier`>alex-vivo: yeah, we need some people working on it
<alex-vivo>bavier`: I see, guixsd really needs more exposure, but I guess gotta wait for 1.0 for that to become more viable. I'm still learning, but hopefully I will help out with packaging some things in the future.
<bavier`>alex-vivo: great, that would be much appreciated.
<ng0>alex-vivo: the browser is a different package
<civodul>mbakke: impressive round of Python updates!
<ng0>if someone is interested I can make a summary of the state-to-get-started on it.. we also have permission to call it torbrowser, as per the details I communicated with torproject. but I don't believe that icecat can be a base for it.
<mbakke>civodul: Hehe. It all started with trying to get python2-hacking tests working :P
<mbakke>I'll try to add some helpers like (with-build-pythonpath ...) and (with-installed-pythonpath ...) to python-build-system.
<OriansJ`>civodul: well, as the issue I am experiencing is simply emacs is believing my user account doesn't have a home directory (a value that is literally passed via envp to every program on linux) and not loading my .emacs. I somehow feel perhaps libnss is probably an overkill solution to a simple getenv and if combo which could fallback to libnss rather easily