<brendyn>if i dont do that and i press backspace in a terminal it beeps annoyinglys
<DusXMT>ACTION personally always thought the beep was useful, but oh well; turns out I was wrong on the driver then, but I do recall there being a driver that used the PC speaker as a fallback audio device with pulse-wave modulation
<brendyn>But it doesn't obey alsa. I'm wearing headphones plugged into an external usb audio interface, but the beep still comes out of the laptop speaker
<brendyn>What do you use the beep for? I never guessed someone would like it.
<DusXMT>To me, a console without a bell feels incomplete :)
<brendyn>I use terminology which has a red flash instead a bell. It's pretty neat.
<DusXMT>brendyn: `13:06 < brendyn> It's intruiging how often I think "This is an abomination, why would any one want it", mention it, and then someone says "Actually I think it's indispensible "'
<DusXMT>Me too, this is why I think freedom of choice is incredibly important too
<DusXMT>(something that's often overlooked in the world of GNU, imho)
<brendyn>Indeed, however, my ambition is to create the best desktop distro out of guix that can be used by anyone, so I'm always interested in figuring out what the ideal default settings and programs are.
<lamefun>GUIX_PROFILE=$HOME/.guix-profile source $GUIX_PROFILE/etc/profile - does not work
<lamefun>I don't get the path set despite the script clearly setting it
<rekado>lamefun: try adding a semicolon before source.
<brendyn>when i switch with 'su' i get an empty PATH, but it works with 'su -l'
<lamefun>Why isn't there an official script in Guix tar.gz?
<OriansJ>lamefun: because everyone is busy and have not yet taken the time to be responsible for that problem yet
<OriansJ>we always welcome contributions and alternate perspectives but at the end of the day, we are humans with complex lives and problems that exist beyound that of shipping software. Our personal lives and priorities are what we address first and thus our contributions are done in the spirit of free software.
<brendyn>lamefun: It's still a young project. Don't be suprised when you find things lacking you feel should already exist
<adfeno>lamefun: For example, I take my case, as long as I can't address the lack of a job, or get hired specifically to contribute to free/libre software, then most of the project will remain second priority because I have to weekly take care of distributing my curriculum vitae, and take care of college obligations and house keeping.
<catonano>lamefun: anyway, I understand that the new Guix installer is quite neat and it will be released with the next Guix version (is it 0.14 ?)
<catonano>lamefun: you could try that to install GuixSD
<catonano>lamefun: it's true that the installation process is not apiece of cake right now bt that's because thhe project is young and people do what they can
<catonano>lamefun: it's steadly improving though !
<roptat>rekado: I'm afraid gradle-core-api needs groovy.lang.DelegatesTo, which is not available in groovy 2.0
<roptat>even gradle 3.0 uses groovy.lang.DelegatesTo in its core module
<roptat>2.3 may be ok if we don't care about testing, and it's the one used to build groovy 2.4.12 (the latest stable groovy is 2.4.13)
<lamefun>catonano: installer for Guix (on top of another distro) or GuixSD?
<jcob>I remember reading somewhere that guix sd does not support xfs. Is that true?
<lfam>Well, now I can't find that message. But, OpenSSH is developed natively with LibreSSL, and OpenBSD seems to actively remove dependencies on copyleft / GNU software, so I don't really think it's worth pursuing
<OriansJ>adfeno: it isn't that openbsd denies GPL's importance, rather they prefer mass use of their software more than standing for user freedom. To them proprietary forks are a good thing. Which is certainly a personal choice they are free to make.
<OriansJ>Every developer is free to decide what values they wish to stand for and what boundries they wish to enforce on their work.
<OriansJ>For some, isc and bsd licenses fit their values better than GPL licenses and that is fine, since their software is still free software.