<Apteryx>Hello Guix! Documentation is very sparse on 'guix package --profile'. Could someone give me an example of how to use it? (create a new profile; preserve it; exit; reuse it again later) <Apteryx>Something I don't understand though. After I created my profile using 'guix package -p .guix-profile -i python@2' and sourcing it with '.guix-profile/etc/profile', I would expect 'guix package -I' to show me only python@2. Instead I see all the packages of my user profile. <bavier>Apteryx: you'll need to provide the -p <profile> argument to any subsequent commands that you want to operate on that profile <Apteryx>Oh, but it works. It's not integrated in the sense that 'guix package -I' will show what's in my currently 'sourced' profile (that'd be nice I guess), but the PATH and other envars are set so that what's installed in my profile with 'guix package -p somepath/.guix-profile something' is available... <Apteryx>bavier: OK! It would be nice to have a sticky version of -p! <Apteryx>So that you can feel 'immersed' in the current profile, the way virtualenv does it for Python. <bavier>Apteryx: possibly. A bit like how git works I guess? <bavier>(I'm not familiar with virtualenv) <bavier>Apteryx: sure, maybe bring it up on guix-devel? <Apteryx>Thanks for the tip. Maybe, yes! For now I need sleep :) <ng0>yay! I have caja and mate-terminal working.. now I just need help with the sed question and we're off to a basic MATE :) <ng0>so basically how to do this for guix packages: <ng0> sed -i -e 's/ -shared / -Wl,-O1,--as-needed\\0/g' libtool <ng0>grep was of no use this time in the source <ng0>of the software I package I mean <thomassgn>is there a way of setting system nameservers in guix config.scm? I can modify resolv ofcourse, but would like to do this in config <thomassgn>(couldn't see anything about it in the manual -> networking <thomassgn>I'll rephrase that, I couldn't find anything about it for a config using connection manager. ***ShalokShalom_ is now known as ShalokShalom
<efraim>ng0: are you sure its not just an issue about the '/usr/share' directory? <ng0>Some of the Mate software has a non-standard way to configure. I'll check this out, thanks <rekado>thomassgn: the <static-networking> record has a field “name-servers”, which defaults to an empty list. <rekado>thomassgn: this list is used to populate /etc/resolv.conf <ng0>efraim: at least there are some occurences of /usr/share in the source I need to substitute ***muzik is now known as muzik_
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<ng0>where do you see /usr/share in the file I uploaded, efraim ? <ng0>I found one occurence of /usr/share in the timezone in a header, I'm fixing that <ng0>but it's just an applet: <ng0>applets/clock/system-timezone.h:35:#define SYSTEM_ZONEINFODIR "/usr/share/zoneinfo" <ng0>I'll try to fix all the /usr/ first.. if it doesn't fix the original issue, it fixes issues anyway ;) <thomassgn>rekado: mm, though I need it to work with connman, which populates resolv on it's own. <ng0>oh.. haven't read the full message the first time. There's only a subset of 'install' which fails :) <thomassgn>Looks like I might change connman and give it the possibility through conf. Maybe. Not that important as of now. <ng0>seems like gir needs to be told about $out <ng0>/gnu/store/6908gy3pws0ccys49ni98idwnicchlr2-coreutils-8.26/bin/install: cannot create regular file '/gnu/store/h1qgcavabwxrnzbgi3zdgxz2375lz72r-gobject-introspection-1.52.1/share/gir-1.0/MatePanelApplet-4.0.gir': Permission denied <ng0>I mean, the panel subset <ng0>onwards to the next thing in Mate :) <roelj>rekado: This is awesome! 11 machines!?! <rekado>roelj: currently it’s 10 because I “rm -rf /boot/grub” <roelj>rekado: Luckily that isn't a permanent brick :) <rekado>these machines had Ubuntu on them before, so on each of them I installed GuixSD from the binary Guix tarball and then running “guix system init /etc/config.scm /” <rekado>had to remove Ubuntu left-overs on boot <rekado>and for that one machine I did this in the morning <roelj>rekado: Uhh.. does that replace Ubuntu with GuixSD? :O <rekado>you still need to “rm /etc/*” without rm config.scm, of course <roelj>Sometimes I wish I was a sysadmin, and could just do that.. :) <efraim>i already added berlin.guixsd.org to my substitute list :) <rekado>roelj: I first tried to transfer asset ownership to Guix or the FSF, but that turned out to be a dead-end. Then I just decided to use the servers. I only had to get IT to give me an outside IP. <rekado>roelj: being a sysadmin helps, but I sometimes wished I could just have someone else do all this work :) <roelj>rekado: Yeah, I think it's a great advertisement for MDC Berlin as well. <roelj>It's my somewhat more integrated solution for a Guix web interface. <jonsger>roelj: certificate is self-signed... <roelj>jonsger: Yes, actually, it's deployment is limited to our internal network (you have to login). And yes, I blacklisted games which better suits our internal use. (Of course, it's easy to remove that filter.. ;)) <jonsger>roelj: I thought that play browser games (like Clash of Clans...) at work. I never hear about supertuxkart :P <wigust>jonsger: There are big good games there, not supertuxkart like only :-) <jonsger>wigust: yeah, but playing those games at work? <jfc>supertuxkart is super fun actually <jfc>jonsger: dream job, get paid to play supertuxkart :D ***muzik is now known as muzik_asleep
<bavier>uff da, sorry about the spam on help-guix <rekado>roelj: “hpcguix.op.umcutrecht.nl uses an invalid security certificate.” <rekado>roelj: and after accepting it still won’t work. Also tried in eww with the same result. <roelj>rekado: Yeah yeah, "internal use only".. Sorry about that. You can run your own though :) <rekado>I’m still using guix-web, but it needs fixing <rekado>and I’m not blacklisting any games :) <rekado>people ought to know that they can find *anything* in Guix. So far nobody has played any games on the cluster. Or maybe I just wasn’t invited. <rekado>roelj: what do you think about improving guix-web? E.g. adding support for chunked retrieval of package data. <roelj>rekado: That was my initial plan, but the MVC-like structure, and the javascript parts turned me into building what ended up in that hpcguix-web repository. <roelj>With guile-commonmark we can just load Markdown pages as static pages. <roelj>It turns out that a somewhat modified JSON file with all packages is around 800kB, which loads in about two seconds in the browser. <roelj>I think that's fast enough. (If Guile had gzip encoding support, the loading could potentially be even faster..) <ng0>hi! so before I left to an appointment a couple of hours ago I made another test with MATE. I was able to boot a VM into MATE, but it was still lacking some functionality parts. <ng0>but good news nevertheless ;) <ng0>*but nevertheless, this is good news. (urgh my grammar is suffering some bad mix of german, english, french and spanish sometimes.. my occasional grammar hic-ups make no sense in any language) <freecap77>I have a problem with "guix pull" and the "guile-git" package <freecap77>"guile-git" package is missing, in new installation after run "guix pull" command <wigust>Hello Guix. Does anybody use Cuirass for building package manifest? <freecap77>and i'm not able to run "guix pull", this command say what need "guile-git" <freecap77>i run "guix package -i guile-git" and apply enviroment variables (indicate by "guix pull" command) but not found. <wigust>freecap77: I don't know, should work after installing “guile-git”. Try “guix environment --ad-hoc guix guile-git --pure -- guix pull” <efraim>I use 'guix environment guix -- guix pull' <lfam>I've been doing that, too. It would be better if it wasn't necessary :/ <lfam>Does anyone know the status of core-updates? It looks like the last evaluation was aborted <lfam>Actually, I'm loading the Hydra web page now. Yesterday it looked like the last evaluation was aborted; I can't see yet if there was a new one or if it was restarted <lfam>While it loads, how are your aarch64 boards, efraim? <lfam>I'm curious to hear your experience now that you've had them for a while <efraim>I think if the firefly gets too hot it only registers 4 cores at boot, but it boots to tty1 in under 5 seconds <lfam>Huh, I assume the A72 cores are the ones it ignores? <efraim>i regularly compile 2 things at a time on it, kernel compile with my nearly allmod config is under 2 hours <lfam>So did you set up a fan for it? <lfam>2 hours is pretty good for something like that. <efraim>it comes with a fan, I made sure the antenna for the wifi didn't interfere with the fan <efraim>i pushed the pspp update after building it on the firefly <efraim>and then reverted it after seeing it fail on x86_64 and i686 <jackhill>Is it because guix-latest-builder input is different because the first invocation of guix pull chnaged its hash? <lfam>jackhill: I'm not sure. Can you ask on <help-guix@gnu.org>? <freecap77>Hi, I try “guix environment --ad-hoc guix guile-git --pure -- guix pull” and works! (thanks to wigust). But "guix pull" command still not working, it's say "guile-git" not have installed and need it to work. Anyone with this error? <lfam>freecap77: It's expected. You need guile-git available to run `guix pull`. You can either install the guile-git package or continue to use `guix environment`. <freecap77>and apply environment variables suggest by guix pull output <ng0>do we have a guideline on how to treat such absolute paths? data/mageia.layout:26:launcher-location=/usr/share/applications/mate-terminal.desktop <ng0>those are not included files, they reference external files <ng0>the problem is it must work for Guix *and* GuixSD... I would have no problem if it were just GuixSD. <ng0>oh.. my thoughts were too narrow <ng0>I can point to the files in the outs of the store? <ng0>but then I would unnecessary inputs.. <ng0>it's just examples.. and the "default.layout" has no such references <ng0>so maybe we can just "live with it"? <ng0>Mate says they consider themselves "close to distros", so maybe we should disregard the files as they target specific defaults for other operating systems <efraim>i bet you can ignore the mageia one <ng0>there are more, it was just an example. But I chose to ignore them as the default has no file names in it <cbaines>I'd like to merge it soon, as without fixing the PID file issue, you can't depend on Memcached from other services <lfam>cbaines: I thought it made sense when I read it. I'd say that if it works for you, go ahead <lfam>Sorry I never replied to say LGTM. <cbaines>lfam, great, I'll merge that shortly then :) <jackhill>lfam: actually, I just did the same thing again (guix pull; guix pull) and this time the second derivation was the same as the first, so it didn't build again. I'm happy now as I think it's because some of the inputs changed. Do you think it is still worth it to write to guix-help (I'm inclined to say no) <lfam>jackhill: It's up to you. It depends on if you want further clarification or not <lfam>I suggested emailing help-guix because nobody had answered you <jackhill>lfam: ah, okay. I just didn't want to disappoint anyone if they were hoping to see a conversation on that topic. <lfam>I guess if you feel satisfied, then no need to send the email. There is... a very large number of emails. <lfam>But if not, please send it. We don't want people to feel confused. And sometimes confusion is the result of a bug <ng0>but also, confussion itself is a bug :) <ng0>I'm motivated to get this lite version of GNOME working <ng0>I think I'm 70% there <ng0>desktop loads is a good indication :) <ng0>just no one wants only a desktop with no panel and no settings functional, so I have to add some more packages <jackhill>Just the process of composing the email helped me understand it a bit better. I'll send mail if I'm still confused in a little bit. <jackhill>I appreciate the advice and sentiments about wanting to squash confusion ☺ <lfam>jackhill: That happens to me all the time! I spend all day writing a bug report and at the end of the day I have a patch instead ;) <ng0>oh. does core-update have gdk-pixbuf 3 by any chance? <ng0>I could just add it as a new package though gdk-pixbuf <ng0>I new gdk-3 >=3.14.0 <ng0>ah. gdk =|= gdk-pixbuf 