<marusich>Acou_Bass, what errors? If it's something you can fix by changing your operating system configuration file, then you should be able to just run "init" again to fix it. No need to run "reconfigure," I think.
<marusich>Basically, if you encountered a problem, then the safest solution is to do it over again from the start.
<Acou_Bass>yeah i figured as much ;D doing that now - and my grub didnt prompt me for my LUKS drive password (but i realised thats because i stupidly put the device as 'crypt' rather than /dev/mapper/crypt) so hopefully will be fixed
<ng0>in case a grub update breaks (which should not happen, but grub config broke for me one time) it would be nice to have a functional way to chroot. right now, chroot into guix from the install-image lacks some functionality
<marusich>Now I wish someone would do that for grafts :)
<marusich>paroneayea, read it. Seems clear. I'll have to play more with services sometime. Will probably learn more by trying, than simply by reading. BTW, I'll bet your article would be even more useful with a few carefully placed hyperlinks to the relevant Guix docs.
<Acou_Bass>the only real difference (besides not needing root to run them) is that ones ran from the root session run as soon as you boot up whereas user ones dont run until you login... so i guess depends what youre wanting to do hehe, cant hurt to have both though
<marusich>I think shepherd might have a way to do it, but it would likely not be integrated into Guix, and I can't remember what it is (if it exists).
<cynede>Petter I mean perfomance is much lower and window managers are buggy with that
<cynede>Petter will try talk more on monday, see you
<ng0>iyzsong: I don't understand the reply to the rfc git-service i've sent.. did you fix it? my intention with the service is to learn and correct until it works (again, used to work almost before I added many options)
<ng0>i have yet to read the entire patch, i've just seen that you added a co-authored by
<iyzsong>ng0: yes, I roughly adjust it to my taste..
<Petter>Hi. lfam encouraged me to fix a redundancy in multiple package recipes. I have, but I'm not sure how I should send them. Is one patch like this ok? http://sprunge.us/UMEM Or should there be one patch pr. file?
<Petter>Also, I don't know what to write in the commit message.
<iyzsong>Petter: yes, i think it's should be one patch, and the commit message can use the 'Likewise' pattern :-) (i failed to open the page with my slow net).
<Petter>I'm not familiar with the Likewise pattern. I'll see what I can dig up about it. Thanks!
<ng0>for "and=>", the => , is this in the gexp of guix documentation mentioned or which section of the guile documentation do I look at to understand it?
<Petter>In a patch, should one add oneself to the Copyright list for any change, no matter how trivial?
<Acou_Bass>eey guys, im not sure if this is something guixSD supports, but is there any way to have a sort of... i dunno, 'private browsing' user account, ie. one that i can log into and the data gets wiped after a reboot?
<Acou_Bass>im sure i remember having such a thing on arch a long time ago but not sure if its even a thing that people do anymore XD
<Petter>Maybe put that users home account in /tmp. I don't know.
<Acou_Bass>yeah ive been having a poke around, seems like thats one way of doing it
<Acou_Bass>its not urgent, more of a curiosity than anything ;D used to always have one on my PC for if friends come round, have a nice locked-down account with none of my details on it and minimal access to things like web browser/VLC hehe
<ng0>i have a couch for the weekend, i only need to find out if someone can come by for the cat
<rekado>I ran out of space again right before finishing a big upgrade. Is there a way to temporarily mark all those nice build artifacts that are already in the store that I’ll need for the upgrade and exclude them from GC cleaning?
<snape>I want to do something depending of whether the value has been explicitely set by the user.
<Acou_Bass>ok errm... im trying to run guix pull (fresh install, so doing the usual first-time update), and its giving me a failed to download error, says ERROR: In procedure getaddrinfo: Name or service not known
<Acou_Bass>also managed to get an encrypted root going, though for now i have to drop to the grub command line and manually decrypt it (though really thats no different from entering the password for it on boot anyway), so woop
<Petter>Is Grub installed in boot firmware or on disk?
<ng0>rekado: I just secured a couch and a friend to feed our cat, I'm coming to the meeting on 12th :)
<lfam>It's possible, even likely, that neovim's build system can be persuaded to use locally available dependencies and not try to download anything. That's what our Python packages do. If the dependencies are missing locally, it will try and fail to download them
<lfam>Speaking of meetings... I bought airfare to FOSDEM :)
<ng0>lfam: possibly, otherwise I don't know how notmuch owuld break
<ng0>guix system: error: service 'file-system-/sys/fs/cgroup/elogind' requires 'file-system-/sys/fs/cgroup', which is not provided by any service what's needed in a dummy file-system based system needed to make this disappear?
<quiliro>how can i download all needed to install GuixSD offline?
<efraim>maybe `guix archive --export $(guix build os-config.scm --sources=transitive) | tar cf inputs sources.tar - `; and then `guix archive --import < tar xf sources.tar` once you're in the install medium?
<efraim>but we don't really have anything official for offline installs
<ng0>this is strange. guix system vm configgit.scm is just ending (or better: not starting, not doing anything) without a message.
<paroneayea>it's running migrations or initializing data stores or some other operations (for example, some applications have a garbage collection operation that might be run manually, or a data integrity check)
<jmd>What do you mean "not exposed"? Do they exist or not? If so, then you could access them.
<paroneayea>jmd: they are somewhere in the store, but there's no obvious way for the user to find them. they're closer to being variables provided to the closure of the service than anything that a user can use.
<paroneayea>sure, I could go hunting in /gnu/store to try to find the file