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<ng0>whoever asked on the mailinglist earlier today: gnunet latest head builds, runs, but -gtk misses some features with latest head, you can see that the refactoring is still going on

<ng0>maybe works. don't know. haven't really checked, logs read like either me wrong config or bad build

<ng0>sneek: later tell iyzsong: it seems your mailbox is or was full/quota maxed out. one of the messages I CC'd you at came back

<sneek>Okay.

<ng0>so i think i missed some messages... a very long thread about the coming soon 0.11 release.

<ng0>new tor version was released. I updated it, for anyone looking to review and push.

<ng0>good night

<lfam>Is Manolis here?

<lfam>I'm trying to merge master into core-updates-next and I'm not sure how to resolve a conflict in (gnu packages commencement): http://paste.lisp.org/+6WHM

<lfam>I *think* that kernel-headers-boot0 should win, because the commit message (e41e39451) introduced it as a new variable in late June, but I'm not sure

<demotri>I tried to install Guix under QEMU, but it failed:

<demotri>make[1]: *** [temacs] Error 1

<demotri>make[1]: Leaving directory '/tmp/guix-build-emacs-no-x-24.5.drv-0/emacs-24.5/src'

<lfam>Similar conflict in (gnu packages cross-base), pasted in an annotation to my previous paste

<lfam>demotri: Is there anything else?

<demotri>lfam: ld returnd 1 exit status

<demotri>Makefile:664:recipe for target 'temacs' failed

<lfam>demotri: Can you paste the whole thing on paste.lisp.org?

<demotri>lfam: I don't know how to get it out of qemu.

<demotri>And there are more errors.

<demotri>Is there any way to restart? I have the feeling that repeatable 'guix system init ...' will build/install more/other packages.

<lfam>There is probably some message that says why the target failed.

<lfam>You can do `guix system init` again. It sounds like it failed while building packages and that should be fine to restart.

<lfam>I assume you are using one of the GuixSD 0.10.0 USB installer images?

<demotri>lfam: yes. 0.10.0 USB

<lfam>phant0mas: I remembered your IRC handle :) Can you look at the paste of the merge conflict that I linked above? I'm merging master in to core-updates-next. http://paste.lisp.org/+6WHM

<demotri>lfam: I started from scratch, currently it looks better. Also, I'm logging to file.

<lfam>Okay, that should make it easier to debug if there are problems

<lfam>There are a lot of conflicts in gnu/tests/base.scm and gnu/tests/install.scm when merging master into core-updates-next.

<lfam>Okay, for (gnu tests base), it seems that master should win all the conflicts

<lfam>And likewise for (gnu tests install)

<lfam>Huh. Merging master into core-updates-next caused the mcron documentation to be duplicated in doc/guix.texi. Git didn't even report a conflict there.

<lfam>I wonder if I can amend the merge...

<ng0>hi. the moving of shells broke some packages

<ng0>is someone working on that already?

<ng0>ACTION gives it a try

<ng0>we broke the po files too.. i think i'm lamost finished with the patch

<ng0>done. i can not build all the packages in the files where i changes tcsh to shells, can hydra just do that?

<ng0>it's proof enough to work for me when make and make check runs fine

<ng0>sent

<ng0>someone review and apply (there's a typo in one of the commit messages)

<ng0>fixes broken master build

<ng0>why did we apply a patch series which breaks this and does not take occurences of removed modules in the first place.

<ng0>*does not replace

<ng0>ACTION afk

<ng0>civodul: ^

<civodul>Hello Guix! :-)

<ng0>hi. oh, probably doesn't make much sense becasue you just connected

<civodul>what?

<Sleep_Walker>XD

<ng0>master broke because of some deleted modules, i sent a patch which fixes it

<ng0>should've been checked more carefully.

<fall__>is it normal for the initial guix system init command to stop on the line of "base-initrd.drv"?

<ng0>fall__: idon't think so

<ng0>can you provide more info?

<fall__>im just wondering, im very new to guix(sd) and linux distros in general

<ng0>i don't know what the output should be when it finishes successfully, too long since i ran it.

<fall__>i follow the manual exactly and im using the usb 0.10.0 files

<ng0>not 0.10.1?

<fall__>i am pretty sure it was 0.10.0, but im not on my workplace right now, so i cant tell you for sure right now

<ng0>i'm multitasking much at the moment, so maybe someone else can help before i provide false info :)

<ng0>there will be a release of 0.11 soon btw

<ng0>ah, definitely 0.10.0

<ng0>sorry

<ng0>working on two 0.10x software systems at the same time xD

<fall__>also, the only thing i dont do that is in the manual is i do not create the partitions as there is already a partition created and mounted by default

<fall__>im also using virtualbox for it

<ng0>there's a guide for qemu in the manual

<ng0>i meant to say, we do not officially support virtualbox, but some people have guixsd working on virtualbox. there might be threads on the guix-devel or help-guix mailinglists where people ran into problems

<fall__>i know, ive seen that, why would the system init stop a certain point if i just use the usb file and convert it to a vdi file? not like it doesnt boot or anything, it just does nothing or is extremely slow after that one line

<ng0>hm

<ng0>honestly i don't know. stick around a while, maybe someone can help

<civodul>fall__: it's hard to tell what's happening

<civodul>maybe you should try 0.11 when it's out (real soon)

<jlicht>hello guix

<civodul>hey jlicht!

<GNUtoo-irssi>hi, guix system vm-image --image-size=4G example.scm now works

<GNUtoo-irssi>I've the VM that starts and all

<GNUtoo-irssi>however I end up with a guile shell instead of bash

<GNUtoo-irssi>I used the .scm from the manual here: 7.2.1 Using the Configuration System

<GNUtoo-irssi>I removed the user account creation and changed the locales

<GNUtoo-irssi>also, changing " (packages (cons tcpdump %base-packages))" with busybox instead of tcpdump didn't work:

<GNUtoo-irssi>In procedure module-lookup: Unbound variable: busybox

<iyzsong>GNUtoo-irssi: 'busybox' is defined in 'gnu/packages/busybox.scm', to make it available, you can add '(use-packages-module busybox)' or '(use-modules (gnu packages busybox))' at the begin of your system config file.

<sneek>Welcome back iyzsong, you have 1 message.

<sneek>iyzsong, ng0 says: it seems your mailbox is or was full/quota maxed out. one of the messages I CC'd you at came back

<iyzsong>ng0: ah, thanks :-

<ng0>do you think I could ask for push access? I know my own view on my capabilities is bad because of own insecurities.

<iyzsong>yes, I don't see why you can't.

<ng0>okay, i'll see to request on savannah later today.

<iyzsong>welcome in advance :-)

<GNUtoo-irssi>ok, thanks

<ng0>:)

<ng0>grothoff told me i should maybe ask for push to gnunet, not dealing with trivial fixes..i though the patch i sent this morning to guix also to be trivial (but a typo introduced in the commit) to fix the broken master. bothering people about it.. well okay, QA.

<jlicht>hmm, I a nice command yesterday getting the exact environment of the guix daemon in case of test failure

<jlicht>can't seem to find it now

<jlicht>it was some env $(which bash) command

<jlicht>I saw *

<ng0>i'm not sure if i sent the request for inclusion at savannah already, i thought hitting Enter would make a linebreak

<ng0>in any case, you either get one very short or two requests now

<ng0>*got

<ng0>am i the only one experiencing a broken master? i pull my checkouts from a local untouched guix master which is synced.

<ng0>Sleep_Walker: neomutt, do you mean you do not experience the problems i had?

<civodul>jlicht: maybe "guix build something -K" and then "cd /tmp/guix-build* ; source environment-variables"

<Sleep_Walker>ng0: I have no crash

<ng0>okay

<ng0>then i'd say commit what i sent most recently

<Sleep_Walker>yeah, that's what I meant :)

<jlicht>civodul: found it! https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2016-08/msg00181.html

<rekado>gtk-doc is broken; the tests fail.

<jlicht>especially the noprofile and norc things were nice

<phant0mas>is lfam here?

<phant0mas>sneek: later tell lfam use kernel-headers

<sneek>Will do.

<phant0mas>sneek: botsnack

<sneek>:)

<ng0>i don't know what went wrong this morning.. now i can build again

<jlicht>node started failing a test, but the node source hasn't changed

<jlicht>Does that mean that either the test result is non-deterministic, or that something with the inputs might have changed?

<davexunit>could be either or both

<davexunit>core-updates was just merged

<davexunit>so lots has changed

<brendyn>Anyone running guix on their personal computers yet?

<brendyn>GuixSD i mean

<civodul>ACTION does

<davexunit>yeah, a bunch of us.

<civodul>jlicht: the failure seems to be deterministic

<brendyn>Keen to move over one day

<brendyn>Busy with study atm though

<civodul>jlicht: it was mentioned in the core-updates thread on guix-devel

<Sleep_Walker>ACTION does ;b

<jlicht>civodul: I just saw it, yes. I suspect it's related to a change in openssl, checking right now...

<davexunit>ACTION notices that 0.11 has been tagged :)

<davexunit>jlicht: I'm also building node right now

<davexunit>re-downloading the world first, though. :)

<jlicht>davexunit: I'd be much obliged if you can share your findings, if any :-)

<davexunit>jlicht: no guarantees since I'm at work, but when I have an idle moment I will poke at it.

<davexunit>jlicht: this is a tricky one

<davexunit>6.3.1 is out. gonna try upgrading and see where that gets us.

<davexunit>jlicht: good news: that test does not fail in 6.3.1. bad news: 3 tests fail.

<myglc2>hello guix

<myglc2>Hi alezost, sorry about the run around yesterday.

<alezost>myglc2: hi! no problem :-)

<ng0>wild

<ng0>now it builds

<ng0>wtf was wrong this morning

<ng0>no.. stil lfails on other machine

<GNUtoo-irssi>thanks, it built with busybox, I also figured out that having the guile interpreter meant here that I was in the initramfs...

<GNUtoo-irssi>the manual says (with the example) ;; Assuming /dev/sdX is the target hard disk, and "my-root" is the label of the target root file system.

<GNUtoo-irssi>(file-systems (cons (file-system (device "my-root") (title 'label) (mount-point "/") (type "ext4")) %base-file-systems))

<GNUtoo-irssi>I had that error in the past already, I should look at how I fixed it, I guess that I must change title 'label to 'path and put a patch instead of an uuid

<jlicht>davexunit: do you by any chance have log output for it?

<davexunit>jlicht: here is the relevant portion http://paste.lisp.org/display/322083

<GNUtoo-irssi>that should do: (device "/dev/sda3")

<ng0>gtk-doc fails.

<ng0>did someone see and fix this? i did not follow all the channel

<jlicht>davexunit: hmm, I'll have a poke at it later today. The localhost one seems similar to something I've already seen in guix, the dgram might actually be something weird in the source

<jlicht>and the third one, who knows :-)

<ng0>can someone look at this thread? I'm super confused if it's just locally me or also other people affected.. guix pull pulls a broken master on all my guix installations. https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2016-08/msg00201.html

<ennoausberlin>Hello

<rekado>ng0: I already pushed one of these patches. Thanks.

<ng0>oh

<ng0>thanks

***civodul changes topic to 'GNU Guix | https://gnu.org/s/guix/ | 0.11.0 is out! http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=8635 | videos: https://gnu.org/s/guix/help/#talks | bugs: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=guix | patches: http://patchwork.sourceware.org/project/guix/list/ | paste: http://paste.lisp.org | log: https://gnunet.org/bot/log/guix'

<civodul>0.11.0 \\o/

<civodul> http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=8635

<civodul>pffew

<civodul>ACTION goes get some fresh air :-)

<davexunit>yay!

<ng0>rekado: yep. now it compiles again. thanks for pushing :)

<paroneayea>ooooh!

<paroneayea>hey I should annoucne that

<rekado>civodul: yay!

<Sleep_Walker>:)

<ng0>damn

<ng0>too much parallel work.. i forgot that libunique does not fail, it is gtk-doc

<ng0>good thing i did only sent the patch for libunique then

<sirgazil>0.11.0 ♫ Thank you everyone for the hard work :)

<ng0>i like the transparency and clear content of guix commit messages. gentoo just dropped guile-2 and i don't know why.

<ajgrf>mkguix

<ajgrf>sorry, didn't mean to type that

<ajgrf>actually, does anyone know where to find eelco's papers on nix?

<ajgrf>i found a reference to it on the guix web site but i can't actually find it anywhere

<itorres>ajgrf: http://arxiv.org/abs/1305.4584

<itorres>sorry, wrong link, it is http://nixos.org/~eelco/pubs/

<itorres>(got there from the bibliography in Guix article)

<ajgrf>thanks

<lfam>How can I add a wifi-service to the "bare-bones" OS config template? I tried adding wicd-service, and it demanded dbus, so I added the dbus-service, and it then told me that I had provided the networking service more than once

<sneek>Welcome back lfam, you have 1 message.

<sneek>lfam, phant0mas says: use kernel-headers

<lfam>phant0mas: Thanks!

<lfam>Well, I don't really need to do that, but I would like to figure out how. I do need to strip my system down because I want to rebuild the system based on some changes to core pcakages

<jlicht>I keep running into a ` fatal error: linux/limits.h: No such file or directory` error

<jlicht>when building a piece of software I'm packaging

<lfam>jlicht: Have you tried setting -I in #:make-flags or #:configure-flags?

<Sleep_Walker>civodul: thanks for bringing up bug #20067, I wasn't able to find it by myself, I'll try that approach

<jlicht>lfam: that... might be a really smart idea.

<lfam>Heh. It's not typical for limits.h to be missing.

<jlicht>lfam: I guess I'll figure it out, but seeing as it's a configure script that wraps a waf script, I might need some hacks to get this working

<lfam>Oof

<jlicht>seems to work! Thanks a bunch

<lfam>I'm glad it was easy enough to already be working!

<jlicht>well, I just got past this hurdle. More than enough to go ;)

<sirgazil>Howdy! The release announcement uses "keys.gnupg.net" to download the public keys, but it never works for me. I get this message:

<sirgazil> https://paste.debian.net/786798/

<sirgazil>But the server indicated in the manual works fine.

<sirgazil>civodul: about "keys.gnupg.net" ↑

<civodul>hi sirgazil!

<civodul`>ah right, keys.gnupg.net is kinda broken

<civodul>i forgot to update that

<civodul`>argh

<Sleep_Walker>damn, it seems I diverged again, everything is building locally

<lfam>Does anyone know how to add the wicd-service to the bare-bones template?

<ng0>is there a smarter way than like the patches download in bash.scm to handle the download and applying of the patches for netcat-openbsd?

<ng0>the patches.. here https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/netcat-openbsd.git/tree/debian/patches or http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/main/n/netcat-openbsd/netcat-openbsd_1.105-7.debian.tar.gz here. see the discussion(s) on our mailinglist

<Orioa>im getting ready to install

<lfam>ng0: I'm not sure if there's a better way than that or not.

<lfam>ng0: But, I didn't really like the response from the Debian developer. It seems like nobody is responsible for those thousands of lines of patches to OpenBSD's netcat code.

<ng0>and also no further responses..

<lfam>Does anybody actually understand and maintain all those patches?

<ng0>openbsd upstream is

<ng0>gr

<ng0>openbsd upstream seems like it is done, upstreaming according to debian did not work, last commits to linux port 2012 same as the patches

<lfam>ng0: OpenBSD is maintaining the patches in Debian? The Debian git repo shows no work since 2012

<ng0>no

<ng0>hit enter too soon

<lfam>Ah

<Sleep_Walker>and what about leting it rot?

<ng0>for me personally it's okay.. i use it and have found no way to work around what I need for some parts in ssh i use

<Sleep_Walker>there is GNU netcat, busybox netcat, socat, ...

<ng0>i need it for.. one moment

<lfam>OpenBSD's native netcat code is maintained, but the Debian package is allowed to rot. I think that Debian should drop the package entirely.

<ng0>Host *.onion ProxyCommand nc-xlocalhost:9050 -X5 %h %p etc

<lfam>nmap also has a netcat implementation

<Orioa>hmm can't seem to get it to download

<lfam>Orioa: What link?

<ng0>started using this in gentoo, did not find another netcat implementation, but i also tried not many

<ng0>orginal netcat did not work out

<Orioa>the download page keeps timing out

<ng0>Orioa: for guix?

<lfam>Orioa: Can you paste the link that is failing?

<Orioa>got it to go to the http download list

<Orioa>not sure what one to download

<lfam>So, it's not timing out anymore?

<lfam>As for which one to download, what are you trying to do? Install the operating system, or the standalone package manager?

<Orioa>i went to the link at bottom of page

<Sleep_Walker>ng0: socat can do socks4 proxy, I'm not sure about socks5 and its difference

<Orioa>operating system

<lfam>Orioa: On what architecture? x86_64 (64 bit) or i686 (32 bit)

<Orioa>x86_64 (64bit)

<lfam>Then you want guixsd-usb-install-0.11.0.x86_64-linux.xz and the associated .sig file

<ng0>Sleep_Walker: i think i'll make this one (netcat-openbsd) a candidate for out-of-tree maintenance on my side.

<ng0>or maybe just don't

<Sleep_Walker>sure, I just want to help you with maintained alternative

<ng0>i think i tried socat.. i don't know. i have to try again.

<Orioa>ty

<ng0> https://onion.debian.org/ do they not know about onion subdomains, like www.123425asdfg.onion git.12345asdfg.onion etc? hrm

<pmikkelsen>Hello guix!

<sapientech>hi everyone, created a package and installed it with guix package -f package_name.scmw

<sapientech>.scm*

<sapientech>when i list installed, it shows up, however i am not able to use it in guix environment commands, for example guix environment --ad-hoc package_name does not work

<rekado>sapientech: use GUIX_PACKAGE_PATH

<sankey>or --load-path=

<rekado>if the module is “(my packages foo)” in a file at “${GUIX_PACKAGE_PATH}/my/packages/foo.scm” then setting the GUIX_PACKAGE_PATH environment variable will tell Guix to pick it up.

<davexunit>the package must be in a proper module to use the load paths

<davexunit>-f works with files that evaluate to a package object

<davexunit>which is a different thing

<sapientech>okay thanks guys, now i imagine it is best to put it in a version controlled guix branch and do ./pre-inst-env? id like to do that, but have had trouble with it thus far

<sapientech>that way i could simply put the package in gnu/packages/

<pmikkelsen>I don't think you have to put it in a branch of the guix source-tree.

<civodul`>grrr is it just me having connectivity issues?

<Sleep_Walker>probably interest in new release :)

<Sleep_Walker>but yes, I had that as well

<civodul`>heh, ok :-)

<pmikkelsen>I did not :)

<davexunit>judging by the comments here http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GNU-Guix-0.11

<davexunit>it seems that we still have a bit of an "identity crisis"

<davexunit>people don't understand why guix exists when there is nix

<davexunit>or they think it is simply nix with a different language

<civodul>i guess we need to explain more :-)