<civodul>relatively little has changed, except for the renaming i just pushed
<lfam>Okay, I wasn't sure how much the new service API related or did not relate to changes in dmd itself. I'm trying to get started defining services. The path is definitely not as clear as getting started defining packages.
<toyo>how can i run guix in a vm, i'm trying to but can't
<NiAsterisk>sorry for being slow with gnunet-gtk (and the rest on my list). I've had some computers to fix, some systems to redo and still some servers to move and think about design for some other thing etc etc.. so horribly slow everything that I am looking into time management now with serious interest for the first time in my life. when I have time issues solved I will be able to work on those packages.
<francis7>Quote: "This seems to be an issue in Linux kernel version 4.3 and higher, though it may also affect older releases. We know that it does not affect Linux kernel version 3.13 (the one used in Trisquel 7, which many libreboot developers and users use). A bisect of the upstream linux kernel Git repository is in order, so that we can find out which commit introduced this issue."
<taylan>marusich: well I just sent an email with Gmail SMTP so I know it works somehow...
<marusich>I sent an email about it to the list a month or so ago, but I have not had time to dive into it in earnest. I thought I'd try again tonight, and I thought I might be able to get away without setting up a full-fledged MTA.
<marusich>taylan, curious. Maybe I should look harder into that.
<taylan>in my authinfo.gpg I have: machine smtp.gmail.com login firstname.lastname@example.org port 587 password scrubbed
<taylan>and: machine imap.gmail.com login email@example.com port imaps password scrubbed
<marusich>also, civodul, on an unrelated note, i have often wondered: what is that scissors cut and paste thing you often use in email lists? Is it some kind of emacs feature? I know git uses scissors in that fashion, but you seem to have some ability to use it for quoting text that I wish I could also do :)
<taylan>and it already contains -x output it seems
<ziz15>hello,could someone tell me how i can make the raw img into a bootable iso i would like to try the os inside vbox and i cant find i way to do so.Thanks
<taylan>strange location: $builddir/guix-0.9.1/_build/sub/test-suite.log. distcheck is funny.
<lfam>ziz15: Do you mean the installer image from the web site or the vm image you make with `guix system vm-image`?
<ziz15>lfam: the installer image from the web site
<lfam>ziz15: Did you know there is a built-in VM creator you can use with `guix system vm-image`? It creates qemu images
<ziz15>lfam: no i didnt know..I help on how to maybe?
<lfam>As far as the installer image, it is bootable. I don't know how to make it work in VirtualBox, but it boots on bare metal if you use `dd` to put it on some device like a USB drive. But it's just an installer image, very bare bones
<ziz15>lfam: i know how to burn it with dd in a usb stick my problem is i cant make it into a bootable iso
<ziz15>lfam: i can make it just an iso but not bootable
<lfam>I don't know, it boots just fine for me once I tell the machine to boot from the USB drive
<lfam>Are you selecting the USB drive as the device to boot from?
<ziz15>lfam: i think you dont understand what i want..i dont want to boot the os from a usb but inside a virtuabox..but thanks for your help
<lfam>ziz15: Sorry I can't help more. If you google how to use virtualbox with a live usb image, you will figure it out
<davexunit>I have a bunch of loose notes thrown about, trying to figure out a good way to organize them.
<civodul>i usually start from random notes taken in an org file
<civodul>that makes it easy to move things around etc.
<davexunit>the rough idea is to discuss what I feel are the big problems with status quo package/configuration management tools, and then explain how Guix fixes each problem, giving quick live demos where I can.
<davexunit>static linking is the norm in Go, and that is the worst thing ever.
<efraim>I don't actually know anything about go, but I think it's all static linking
<davexunit>yeah, that makes me wonder how much we really want a Go package.
<davexunit>civodul: what do we about languages where static linking is *the* way to do things?
<karhunguixi>"For the amd64 architecture only, the compiler has a new option, -dynlink, that assists dynamic linking by supporting references to Go symbols defined in external shared libraries." -- https://golang.org/doc/go1.5
<mark_weaver>bah, perl-module-pluggable-search.patch doesn't apply either, and that entire module doesn't even seem to exist anymore, or has been renamed.
<rgrau>hi, are the hydra keys packaged with guixsd distribution? Can't find them anywhere. maybe I'm not supposed to use susbstitutes to build the distro for the first time. but just asking
<mark_weaver>rgrau: in the source tree, it's hydra.gnu.org.pub in the top-level of the source tree.
<mark_weaver>or /run/current-system/profile/share/guix/hydra.gnu.org.pub on a GuixSD system.
<mark_weaver>civodul: oh, nevermind, I see that perl has been updated already in core-updates. sorry for the noise.
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<aeva>hi - is anyone here who is running guixsd on a machine that uses an intel gma 4500mhd for graphics (eg, a thinkpad x200)? Performance seems ok for some tens of minutes before it utterly tanks until reboot (eg, 40fps for a while on a complex demo, and then crawls at about 6fps). This smells like a regression somewhere, but I'm not sure what to try to roll back or to what version, and I am having trouble finding current information on
<efraim>so I just learned that python-3.5 came out 3 months ago
<mark_weaver>aeva: I ran GuixSD on a Libreboot X200, but alas my X200 developed a hardware problem, so I can't test now, but I guess that linux-libre is the thing to roll back.
<karhunguixi>i'm running a X200 right now (unsure about graphics), let me know if i can be of assistance
<mark_weaver>I never noticed the specific problem you're describing, but recent kernels have caused an issue with my X60 where I sometimes need to reboot in order to play videos. maybe it's related.
<mark_weaver>the error indicates that some resource cannot be allocated, and I guess maybe it's resources in the graphics accelerator that cannot be allocated.
<aeva>I've heard the sentiments expressed with running gnome3, but I'm running windowmaker. Particularly, open this http://mgrl.midnightsisters.org/demos/light/ in a browser that is set up for webgl (icecat works for me, might need to enable webgl in about:config)
<mark_weaver>I've tested icecat with webgl, and it seems to work for me without having to enable anything.
<aeva>the above is enthusiasm that this is reproducable
<mark_weaver>so, you could just revert the following commits to get back to linux-libre-4.2.6: 6b0d24b17cee1e4d0697c6ebf57be0a5cfb1075e 8ae95578a7a88554afe9b3bfa03881ee3206485b 7534370435e40b11b0b254753d63d2c27cc9a9a5
<mark_weaver>aeva: have you verified that the problem doesn't exist in linux-libre-4.2.x?
<aeva>would be cool if I could get this working in time for libre planet :D. I don't think I'll have time to tinker with the laptop in the next day or so, but I'll try rolling back the kernel before the week is out
<mark_weaver>on my X60, I'm getting less than 1 FPS on that program :-(
<civodul>bavier: do you want to do it, or should it do it?
<civodul>lfam: yes, the python/caldav things; i was just wondering if they were stuck waiting for review
<lfam>I was wondering about the python-2 issue in general, but I don't see it as blocking the *dav stuff. I was actually waiting for the pypi-uri ".zip" fix to go in. I just used applied it to the relevant patch.
<bavier>civodul: my repository is tied up with a build right now, so you can do it, if that's fine with you