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<paroneayea>you also run out of a git checkout of guix right? <paroneayea>sudo ./pre-inst-env guix-daemon --build-users-group=guix-builder <civodul>rms is suggesting that we see whether we can implement the subset of systemd that GNOME relies on to somehow talk to dmd or whatever corresponding component we're using <civodul>if anybody wants to see exactly what it is that GNOME uses, and what for, that'd be great! <davexunit>so dmd would have an implementation of some systemd stuff that GNOME requires? <nukke>I'm sure GNOME can run on uselessd <_`_>it's only logind but consolekit still works for now I think <davexunit>yeah I don't really know what systemd stuff GNOME actually depends on <_`_>that should provide insight <civodul>davexunit: yes, it would provide libsystemd-logind or whatever, and just call out to the equivalent thing in dmd <civodul>we really need a d-bus implementation for Guile <jmd>civodul: I thought d-bus was obsolete. <civodul>it's used a whole lot by all these desktop/Linuxish things <_`_>jmd: do you mean in place of kdbus? <mark_weaver>jmd: dbus is certainly not obsolete. it is overwhelmingly dominant in its area. <mark_weaver>in fact, linux (the kernel) is even integrating support for it to improve its efficiency. maybe that work is already done, I haven't looked recently. <mark_weaver>hydra has finished building current git master, and it has fewer build failures than I can ever remember seeing. <civodul>we should aim for zero, but that's not trivial of course *mark_weaver has been spamming bug-guix about the build failures <davexunit>I created an environment for guix-web. guix is one of the dependencies, however, I want to use my pre-inst-env guix. <davexunit>I guess I just have to make my own guix dev package and have guix compile it so its in the store. <civodul>yes, and you could keep that guix-dev definition in your tree <davexunit>was hoping to avoid the extra compiling, but seems to be no way around it. <davexunit>this also brings me to a feature request: git repo support for 'guix download' <civodul>oh yes, we could add a --method option <civodul>davexunit: BTW, what would you think of writing an "Invoking guix import" section? :-) <civodul>i generously offer to help on the Nix part :-)