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<civodul>same for ~/.config/guix, for the user that's running 'guix pull'?
<mark_weaver>has anyone successfully started pulseaudio on the standalone guix system?
<tadni__>civodul: It was created, with guix pull. It's not populated with anything though.
<civodul>tadni__: then, could you run 'strace -o log guix pull', and search the tail of 'log' for the offending symlink(2) call?
<civodul>sorry i don't have a better guess ;-)
*tadni__ is currently trying it again, but will if it fails again.
*davexunit is figuring out how to get wpa_supplicant working
<tadni__>davexunit: I couldn't even call it from bash.
<mark_weaver>davexunit: you need to install those two modules I mentioned
<davexunit>it's in .guix-profile/sbin, which is not in your $PATH by default
<davexunit>tadni__ ^
<tadni__>civodul: Hm, trying it again ... it seems to have worked.
<davexunit>mark_weaver: ohhh yeah. what were those again? I've forgotten.
<davexunit>I can look at logs if you remember what day it was
<tadni__>Bizzare.
<davexunit>tadni__: it's the right place for them, you can always add sbin to your PATH, I might do that.
<mark_weaver>davexunit: ccm and ctr
<mark_weaver>have you written a wpa_supplicant.conf file before?
<tadni__>davexunit: I meant re-running worked, for guix pull ...
<davexunit>mark_weaver: no, first time. reading up on that.
<davexunit>tadni__: oh, sorry.
<davexunit>didn't see that part
<tadni__>davexunit: No, it's fine -- just confused. Don't think I did anything different.
<davexunit>a bug perhaps.
<tadni__>What arguments do you need for "guix system reconfigure"?
<davexunit>tadni__: the name of the configuration file
<davexunit>mine is stored in /etc, so I do `guix system reconfigure /etc/config.scm`
<tadni__>Ah.
<mark_weaver>davexunit: in most cases, this is sufficient: network={ \\n ssid="MYNETWORK" \\n key_mgmt=WPA-PSK \\n psk="MYPASSWORD" \\n }
<davexunit>mark_weaver: awesome, thanks.
<mark_weaver>davexunit: then run wpa_supplicant -i wlan0 -c wpa_supplicant.conf -B
<davexunit>mark_weaver: do those kernel modules require a reconfigure?
<mark_weaver>and then: dhclient wlan0
<mark_weaver>davexunit: no, they're in the standard config
<davexunit>hmm, okay.
<mark_weaver>modprobe ccm && modprobe ctr
<davexunit>I did that, but when I lsmod and grep for them I get nothing, but I guess that's okay.
*tadni__ looks into how to add things into path.
<mark_weaver>davexunit: also, "modprobe nls_iso8859_1" enabled me to mount a USB stick, maybe that will help you too?
<mark_weaver>davexunit: hmm, I'm surprised that lsmod doesn't show them after you modprobe them
<tadni__>Hm, do I need to do anything special aefter I add to path? I did "export PATH=$PATH:~/.guix-profile/sbin"
<davexunit>hmm I keep deauthenticating from the access point
<davexunit>deauthenticating by local choice (Reason: 1=UNSPECIFIED)
<mark_weaver>sounds like the modules didn't get loaded
<davexunit>that's what I feared
<mark_weaver>what is the output of "which modprobe" ?
<davexunit>/run/current-system/profile/bin/modprobe
<mark_weaver>and: ls -l $(which modprobe)
<svetlana>there is no offline help for gnustep things?
<svetlana>like `info` for some of emacs things etc
<davexunit>1 item, a symlink pointing to /gnu/store/...-kmod-17/bin/modprobe
<civodul>svetlana: no idea, but wmaker is just a tiny bit of GNUstep, i think
*civodul -> zZz
<civodul>tomorrow, holidays! :-)
<civodul>ttyl!
<davexunit>mark_weaver: I did 'find /gnu/store -name ccm.ko -print0 | xargs -0 sudo insmod' to get the modules loaded and showing up with lsmod
<mark_weaver>hmm
<davexunit>however, my situation doesn't seem to have improved
<mark_weaver>try removing -B from the wpa_supplicant command line, adding -d, and looking through the output
<mark_weaver>see if you can find the error
<davexunit>ooh that's helpful
<davexunit>a lot more information to dig through now
<svetlana>yea i would probably make use of offline help for everything :p
<davexunit>despite the modules being installed, it seems like they are not being used.
<davexunit>wpa_supplicant skips over every AP
<mark_weaver>if it doesn't even try associating with any of them, then you probably made a mistake in your config
<davexunit>I was doubting my config, so I ran wpa_passphrase to generate the network block and still no luck. hmm, I hope it's just a config problem.
<mark_weaver>sounds like the ssid is not matching what's there
<mark_weaver>you could use bssid=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX instead
<mark_weaver>with the Xs replaced by the mac address of the wireless station
<davexunit>I'll try it
<davexunit>no dice
<mark_weaver>do you see your wireless station in the scan output when running wpa_supplicant with -d ?
<davexunit>yes
<mark_weaver>you're running: "wpa_supplicant -i wlan0 -c /path/to/wpa_supplicant.conf -d", right?
<davexunit>yes
<mark_weaver>can you post your wpa_supplicant.conf (with the psk redacted) ?
<RISCi_ATOM>is the gnunet_bot connected to the gnunet ?
<davexunit>mark_weaver: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=pFxPpgFz
<mark_weaver>it logs to http://gnunet.org/bot/log/guix
<davexunit>mark_weaver: I've also tried with key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
<mark_weaver>davexunit: you need key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
<davexunit>additionally, I've also tried with the psk hash instead of the quoted plain text password
<davexunit>and still no luck.
<mark_weaver>:-(
<davexunit>yeah, it's weird. I'm still suspicious of the kernel modules.
<davexunit>modprobe doesn't complain about anything that I do.
<davexunit>I can enter made up kernel modules and there's no issue
<davexunit>instead of the usual FATAL: Module foo not found.
<mark_weaver>pastebin.com blocks tor, btw
<davexunit>:(
<davexunit>that's not very nice
<davexunit>giving up for tonight. wpa_supplicant insists that my key is wrong, but I know it is the correct key.
*tadni` is trying to remember what I need to do for aclocal, on Fedora 20 for Guix...
<tadni`>Hm, working now.
<RISCi_ATOM>Wow, it has gotten quiet here.
<svetlana>because i am not ranting
<RISCi_ATOM>XD
<svetlana>i can give you all unanswered questions of the last 3 days if you like
<svetlana>"setxkbmap -model pc101 -layout us,ru -option grp:lctrl_lshift_toggle" - this is ok. I tried adding it to /etc/keyboard and rebooting, but it does not pick it up there. How do I save such setting?
<svetlana>(running windowmaker within another distro and every other channel is dead)
<RISCi_ATOM>svetlana: I have not looked into keyboard configurations for guix :\\
<svetlana>RISCi_ATOM, ok. "how do I start the gworkspace desktop thing without starting the file manager"
<RISCi_ATOM>svetlana: Wait, did you get windowmaker working on guix ?
<RISCi_ATOM>Also, it is someting like GWorkspace.app
<svetlana>no, I'm playing with it under another distro
<RISCi_ATOM>Ah
*RISCi_ATOM <3 winodwmaker / GNUStep
<RISCi_ATOM>whereis GWorkspace.app
<svetlana>gworkspace appears to open a filemanager too, but I don't always want a filemanager open
<RISCi_ATOM>It has been a while since I've used GWorkspace
<svetlana>using ~/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/autostart with setxkbmap works
<xisiqomelir>hello friends
<xisiqomelir>Hello friends
<grasshopprWhoppr>hi, thinking about trying 0.7. would not work in virt-manager.
***jmd` is now known as jmd
<jmd>I'm getting a build error:
<jmd> build-failed /gnu/store/h5zmra6y3qfycmwi4b85mp7h4a6n3qnx-gcj-4.8.3.drv - 1 cycle detected in the references of `/gnu/store/3gq9hcbdng1wp0zpmrxpqijv0djd12h0-gcj-4.8.3-lib
<jmd>What does this mean?
***Basstard1 is now known as Basstard`
<mark_weaver>sneek: later tell jmd: the same problem started happening with gccgo at some point, probably when some of gcc was split into a "lib" output. see http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=18101
<sneek>Got it.
<mark_weaver>sneek: later tell jmd: my guess is that there's a cycle of references between the "lib" and "out" outputs.
<sneek>Got it.
<Mathnerd314>how does Guix use Nix? Is it a fork or do you just avoid using nix-instantiate?
<sneek>Mathnerd314, you have 2 messages.
<sneek>Mathnerd314, civodul says: looks good, but NixOS and Guix actually take care of /etc by themselves; dmd/systemd are just consumers of that
<sneek>Mathnerd314, civodul says: specifically /etc is mostly a bunch of symlinks to /gnu/store
*Mathnerd314 has no recollection of that conversation
<Mathnerd314>hmm, I guess my question is answered: http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/tree/nix/sync-with-upstream
<Mathnerd314>haha http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/tree/nix/nix-daemon/shared.hh; "This idea is evil. Abort."