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<civodul>hello gnunet_bot!

<civodul>you seem to be experiencing networking issues my dear

*Steap thinks we've lost civodul

<civodul>it's going counter that goal here

<Steap>Firefox to stay true to Free Software and have around 0.00001 market share, thus making Free browsers not used by the common folks

<Steap>or Firefox saying "well, we're fucked" but allowing you to not use the DRM-stuff

<civodul>well i view it differently

<civodul>i thought it was more, but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers agrees with you

<civodul>anyways

<Steap>It's quite easy for the FSF to look down upon Mozilla on this one

<Steap>But I guess that as usual, the FSF describes the world as it should be, and others try to make it happen

<civodul>indeed, the FSF is fighting a fight for user freedom

<civodul>not for market share

<civodul>howdy hsyl20 ;-)

<Steap>Sure

<Steap>does the FSF plan to go live on a deserted island and have the Internet repalced by a LAN connecting their MIPS-based laptops ?

<Steap>Or haven't they given up on the real world yet ?

<civodul>don't be tongue-in-cheek, that's no helpful ;-)

<civodul>the FSF's machine run only free software, for instance

<civodul>and they're in the "real world"

<civodul>*machines

<civodul>gtg

<Steap>It amazes me that they can't see that the average Joe is not aware/does not care about Freedom/privacy etc.

<Steap>and that we have to use other strategies to get people to use Free Software

<Steap>hey, I used Firefox and VLC before knowing about Free Software

<Steap>because "hell yeah, those are much better than IE and the Windows Media Player"

<hsyl20>civodul: hey!

<jmd>Steap: I think the FSF is well aware of that. That is why the FSF exists.

<civodul>indeed

<civodul>and other organizations like FSF Europe, April, etc. etc.

<civodul>but yeah, that's difficult

<antono>hello, all

<antono>if anyone interested in guix package for debian: https://github.com/antono/guix-debian

<antono>it provides init.d service

<antono>creates needed users and groups

<antono>etc...

<civodul>antono: ooh cool, thanks!

<civodul>perhaps you should send a note to the list?

<antono>it only not reflects recent change to /gnu namespace

<antono>i'll change it soon

<civodul>ah, ok

<antono>probably yes

<antono>can we create debian repository for guix on gnu.org ?

<antono>it should not be hard

<antono>i mean its not hard to create repository tree

<civodul>i think it wouldn't be appropriate, plus i wouldn't even know how to host it

<antono>ok

<civodul>oh you mean a repo for the package's source?

<civodul>like debian/rules etc.?

<antono>no, i mean something pluggable to debian's /etc/sources.list

<civodul>ah, that i wouldn't know how to do

<antono>to make guix apt-get installable

<antono>ok

<antono>i'll try to make repository on launchpad.net

<civodul>maybe you could ITP the thing?

<civodul>ok

<antono>no

<antono>they will not permit /gnu or /nix in the root

<civodul>maybe they'd refuse due to FHS violations, i guess

<civodul>right

<antono>i taked about this in irc one year ago

<antono>and heard strict no

<civodul>ok

<antono>it will be hard even with store moved to /var/ namespace

<civodul>i see

<civodul>you could also provide a home-built .deb; that's easier than providing a real repo, i guess

<antono>yep. i have one

<antono>i'll publish it soon

<civodul>oky

<antono>it would be nice to have enable/disable actions for guix in hybrid environments

<antono>scenario when i want to use ls from coreutils provided by my instead of coreutils from guix

<antono>but probably it should be outside of guix

<antono>just PATH managment helper

<civodul>yeah, i'd say it's up to you to define PATH the way you want it

<civodul>i don't know how we could help with it

<civodul>for the other env. vars there's "guix package --search-paths", which helps a bit, i think

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