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<Fare>does guix have plenty of magic filesystems like nixos? <civodul>Guix is not yet usable as a stand-alone distro <Fare>if I type mount on nixos, it has plenty of ad-hoc filesystems <Fare>such as making /nix/store readonly <civodul>well i have an old NixOS and /nix/store isn't special <Fare>they also reset all dates to Epoch+1 <civodul>that's because we want builds to be "pure" <civodul>so the build result shouldn't be influenced by anything, and not by system time in particular <viric>many similarities between guix and nix. suspicious. <Fare>and have a magic /run/keys and /var/setuid-wrappers and then /run/user/1000/ <civodul>looks like this has changed somewhat lately <Fare>don't ask me what it all is. Plenty of other things under /sys, too <civodul>for /sys it's nothing special i think <civodul>it's just that systemd wants many of them, i suppose <viric>I understood things only in the pre-systemd times <Fare>yup plenty of cgroup things <viric>aren't you watching Englishvision or what? <viric>the french still get a translation (3 seconds lag after the joy) <dsdfsd>civodul: I'm chasing the failures mentioned in the "prefetch" thread. <dsdfsd>'git show c0412fedf | patch -p1 -R' fixes some of the tests. Would you like to see the logs? <sepi>Hi! Why would I want guix over nixos? <sepi>And does anyone plan on replacing nix by schemen code? <civodul>sepi: yes, Guix uses Scheme instead of the Nix language <civodul>mostly because it gives access to all the tools of the host language: compiler, debugger, libraries, etc. <civodul>another difference is that Guix values user freedom: the distro provides only free software <civodul>that being said, Guix is in early development stages compared to NixOS <sepi>I'm both interested in scheme and fed up by deprecated broken statefull package management and would like to have a maintainance-free music production workstation installation <sepi>btw, how can I set the keyboard layout in the guix 0.6 vm? <sepi>I tried to install emacs on the VM but now my disk seems to be full and I get "df: cannot read table of mounted file systems: No such file or directory" <civodul>sepi: ah yes, the VM was short on disk, i think :-/ <civodul>and the df error is because of a missing /etc/mtab file <civodul>to set the keyboard layout, you could use setxkbmap, but it's not pre-installed <sepi>civodul: ah, I just wanted to shut the system down in order to try to increase the vms size but don't know how to <civodul>that may be possible with qemu-img, and then, after booting into it, resizing the partition with Parted or similar <sepi>civodul: is there an alternative to df? <sepi>and does gnu dmd not need /etc/fstab? <civodul>sepi: you could do "cp /proc/mounts /etc/mtab" <sepi>so dmd is central in the design of the guix distribution or might it change? <civodul>it's fairly central, but it's not too hard (yet) to move to another system <sepi>It seems to be a pretty critical part so thats why I'm asking <civodul>we're gaining more and more confidence about it as we build the real distro <civodul>it's working out pretty well, and it's easily integrated with the rest <sepi>And would you later be able to move to hurd? <civodul>phant0mas is actually working on porting the distro to GNU/Hurd <civodul>(that should have been a GSoC, but i failed that...) <sepi>civodul: how can I become root on the VM? <civodul>in the 0.6 VM you have to go to tty1 or such <civodul>now we have sudo & co, which is more convenient, needless to say ;-) <sepi>civodul: how do I get to tty1 in qemu? It seems that my system grabs ctrl-alt-f1 <phant0mas>I am working on some undefined references and I will send the glibc package soon <phant0mas>I am just having a lot of work at my university, that's why I slowed down a bit <sepi>civodul: sorry, I found out ow already <zacts>phant0mas: I know what that's like re: the university slowing down projects.