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<phant0mas>patching files for double declarations,bypassing missing header files by puting them in the right place
<phant0mas>now No rule to make target errors
<phant0mas>I might need someting to keep me awake after all :P
<phant0mas>good morning guix
*Digit798 gets curious as to how easy or extensive it is to simply "drop-in" guix into an existing installed distro, whatever it might be, barebones busybox, or some more conventional os laden with already installed apps viaits own packagemanager
<civodul>Hello Guix!
<civodul>hey rigelk
<civodul>rigelk: how's everything going?
<rigelk>hi civodul ; i've been in exams last week, and I'm still coding on the GNUnet service.
<rigelk>civodul: going to vote for now ;)
<rigelk>i'll be back for tonight ; i have a roadmap to clarify if I recall
<phant0mas>hello civodul
<phant0mas>had some issues with double declarations of variables in glibc, which I pathed, some files were looking for the files in the wrong place
<phant0mas>I am actually reading the errors I get during building and I apply the coresponding patches:P
<phant0mas>patched*
<civodul>rigelk: ok :-)
<civodul>rigelk: let us know how it goes
<civodul>esp. in terms of experimentation with Guix and GNUnet
<civodul>phant0mas: if there are genuine glibc build issues, make sure to report them to bug-hurd
<civodul>by genuine, i mean that are likely not due to the build setup
<civodul>anyway, it seems you're making good progress :-)
<phant0mas>about the misplasements of the header files it may be something wrong in my side
<phant0mas>but about the double declaration I will report it
<phant0mas>I asked yestarday in #hurd but took no answer
<phant0mas>there were 2 declaration of sigset_t
<phant0mas>for now I commented the one out and it seems to work
<civodul>ok
<civodul>make sure to document build issues you have to paper around
<phant0mas>ok
<guest`>why there's 2 '("python" ,python-2)' in icecat's native-inputs field?
<civodul>hello guest`
<civodul>why not? :-)
<civodul>presumably Python 2 is needed at build time
<guest`>civodul: redundancy, or two times means it is REALLY needed?
<phant0mas>civodul: the amounts of patches used in debian and not present in upstream is unbelievable
<civodul>phant0mas: yes, that's a problem :-/
<civodul>guest`: the string "python" allows it to be refer from build-side code, whereas ,python-2 is a reference to the actual package definition for Python 2
<civodul>guest`: if you haven't already, see http://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/guix.html#Defining-Packages and the other material available on the web page
<guest`>civodul: yes, but there's two lines like that
<civodul>oh?
<civodul>guest`: indeed, that's a mistake
<civodul>patch welcome :-)
<guest`>civodul: I can do that someday, I need to learn git :P
<phant0mas>civodul: I am starting to believe that the upstream cannot be built without the debian patches
<phant0mas>I am hand picking them now to see which ones we need
<civodul>phant0mas: that's very well possible, unfortunately
<civodul>when you have concrete data, we should email bug-hurd with the details
<phant0mas>ok, I am writing the issues on a paper so I can concetrate them
<phant0mas>concentrate*
<civodul>cool
*civodul makes good progress on signed substitutes
<zacts>what reliability features does dmd offer?
<civodul>zacts: what do you mean?
<civodul>hey, mark_weaver
<mark_weaver>greetings
<zacts>civodul: does dmd offer crash recovery of services, or even of the dmd program itself?
<civodul>zacts: well, like all init systems it tries to respawn services that fail, up to a limit
<civodul>if it crashes itself, you're screwed
<zacts>ok
<phant0mas>it's building!!
<phant0mas>waiting
<phant0mas>came that close...and I think it failed at linking
<phant0mas>not gonna stop now I am close
<phant0mas>:P
<civodul>yay
<phant0mas>civodul: I am too tired to continue today :P
<phant0mas>tomorrow I am gonna send an email to bug hurd to report the things I had to change and ask about the part that fails
<civodul>ok!
<civodul>make sure it's solid enough, so as to not bother them
<civodul>mark_weaver: comment on the signed substitutes thing welcome! :-)
<mark_weaver>civodul: I've been distracted for the last couple of days, but I'm glad to hear there's progress with that :)