<youlysses>Steap: Then it'd be a good-time to support projects like "GNUnet" then. :^)
<mark_weaver>Indeed. I feel like I fool. I worked closely with Phil Zimmermann at PGP Inc (second full-time programmer hired there; produced the nicely OCR'able source code books). I should have known better.
<Steap>As one of my friends told me earlier, even if you were to throw away your computer, your name would still appear in a gazillion places, as long as you use healthcare, pay bills etc.
<mark_weaver>jxself: a lot of the time I live with friends (at the moment, helping my best friends raise their young child), but when needed I sleep out in the woods.
<mark_weaver>which actually I find quite enjoyable. I can work at public libraries, or at MIT's all-volunteer radio station where I work.
<mark_weaver>jxself: ah, I was wondering about that. so using coreboot is able to defeat AMT?
<jxself>I'm not sure of that. The X60s never had AMT to begin with. That was one of the reasons to get it. Plus being supported by coreboot.
<jxself>I've also replaced the Intel WiFi card with one with Atheros. In general I think it's comparable to the Yeeloong from a freedom perspective.
<jxself>There is still the proprietary hard disk firmware but that's also a problem on the Yeeloong too and no one is working on that, AFAIK.
<mark_weaver>I previously had a Thinkpad X20, and tried to replace the internal card to support USB 2, only to find that it had a whitelist, and rejected my card :-( but I guess that's implemented in the BIOS, and thus avoided by coreboot.
<jxself>Yes, that anti-feature isn't present in coreboot. :)
<mark_weaver>but another option is "General Delivery", where someone writes as the destination address "general delivery" of a particular post office, and they hold it there for a certain length of time. I could pick it up using an ID.
<youlysses>jxself: Well yeah, but I'm asking if it'd be cheaper/easier at that point to buy something relatively comparable and then replace needed hardware with their equivalent. :^P
<mark_weaver>jxself: the thing is, there's work to be done to make the Loongson viable. work needs to be done on the toolchain, on distro support, on writing optimized code where needed. by using the YeeLoong, I'm confronted with those issues and am motivated to work on fixing them.
<Steap>mark_weaver: in France. Well, without an address, you can't get your mail from Healthcare, from your job, etc. So I'd say life is a bit harder :) Even poor people need one to receive financial aid from the government (which is obviously an issue for those who can't afford a place to live)
<jxself>youlysses: Well, a ThinkPad supported by coreboot might be something to consider.
<youlysses>jxself: The thing is, that preferably I'd be looking for something at about that "netbook" to "small laptop" size, which I'm not sure how/if their smaller models support coreboot or-not. I suppose it's worth the time to invest for research. :^P
<jxself>But you can't start adding too many qualifications, though, because the choices are rather limited to begin with...
<mark_weaver>jxself: trust me, I know what it's like to invest in a dying platform. I spent a lot of time on the OLPC XO-1, and on the Psion 5-
<mark_weaver>Psion 5-MX (the only computer I've owned that's sufficiently power efficient for me to use away from the power grid for long periods of time)
<mark_weaver>and you may be able to go for a few more years, but sooner or later it will be unusable.
<jxself>I met someone in Boston with an OLPC. I played with a bit. It seemed nice although the keys seemed kinda small. I used that program with espeek I think it was & made it say "I am a happy green computer." ;)
<jxself>You're probably right in the long term. Making an FSF-endorsable may very well mean avoiding x86 but for now I can compute in freedom and expect to be able to make this last for at least a number of years.
<mark_weaver>in the long term, Milkymist is my best hope. but in the shorter term, I have a lot more confidence in Lemote than Intel.
<mark_weaver>but I successfully compiled the entire OS from scratch (using Cross Linux From Scratch) including GNU IceCat on my YeeLoong 8101B with only 1GB of RAM. Granted, it took a long time to do it.