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<ArneBab>sneek: later tell ttz: I think the first step before standardization would be to find out what’s needed to speed up the implementation in Guile. ⇒ 3P: 3 Pillars of improvement: Experimentation, Implementation, Standardization. ⇒ https://www.draketo.de/software/programming-scheme#compare-equal

<sneek>Okay.

<ttz>ArneBab: you asked to see the numbers so I documented everything in here: https://codeberg.org/ttz/inner-product-benchmark.

<ttz>As I said, no break-through here but it is rather pleasant to see that Chez is actually able to reach Rust speed.

<ttz>Guile is suprisingly good too!

<ArneBab>ttz: thank you! that’s really neat! You could try to kick Guile a bit deeper by pre-compiling with guild compile -O3 FILE.scm -o FILE.go and then call guile with guile -L . -C .

<dsmith>sneek, botsnack

<sneek>:)

<dsmith>!uptime

<sneek>I've been aware for 7 months

<sneek>This system has been up 30 weeks, 1 day, 8 hours, 40 minutes

<ttz>ArneBab: the command you suggested that first compiles using O3 produced no noticeable change at all :/

<ArneBab>ttz: then Guile already does all applicable optimizations on O2 -- thank you for testing!

<reyman>hi !

<reyman>Seems a previous guix pull broke both my gnome start but also failed to compile a derivation : guix-science channel package jupyter.scm is broken with unbound variable for nss-certs-for-test

<identity>reyman: you probably want to ask about that in #guix instead

<reyman>oups

<ttz>Is it possible to cond-expand an import inside a library?

<ttz>or cond-expand anything at all inside a library?

<ttz>I have this error: https://paste.debian.net/1392272/

<mwette>must be library thing, it's used in (system base lalr) module

<mwette>maybe try define-syntax-rule ?

<mwette>^ is Guile specific. Maybe (define-syntax fl:* (identifier-syntax *))

<ttz>So it's said in the SRFI that "The construct is restricted to the top level of a program".

<ttz>And anyway Chez does not have cond-expand in its base namespace.

<ttz>So I would need to import SRFI-0 I guess... which guile does not implement...

<ttz>So I am going to have a module for both in different files but with the same name, and manually load the dedicated file in each REPL I guess.

<ttz>This is really a hack

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