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<lechner>Hi, should extension names use underscores or hyphens for visual separation? <old>lechner: you mean something like libextension_something.so ? <humm>unless it’s a C identifier, no reason to use _ <noe>I guess it should correspond to the name of the shared library. So I would say dashes? <noe>guile’s is called guile-3.0 <noe>libguile-3.0 actually <humm>lechner: it’s relatively uncommon to put underscores in filenames <lechner>Hi, is the caret ^ available for a class of procedures similar to how we use the asterisk * ? <ieure>lechner, Like (define (^foo^) ...) <ieure>I suggest you simply try it, but I expect it'll work. Lisps are very permissive about symbol names, the only thing I'd be wary of is stuff that'd confuse reader macros, like `'#() chars. <ieure>Also, if the other convention is *earmuffs*, I propose your naming this convention ^bat^ symbols. <rlb>There's also #{42 some questionable symbol}# and r7rs |42 some questionable symbol|, but I'd suggest favoring much more prosaic naming -- I think my bar would be moderately high for adding something like ^x^, for example (fwiw). <rlb>But maybe I'm insufficiently adventurous :) <old>sneek: later tell lechner the only language that puts `_` in their files is Python. Because their module system reflection works with Python identifier <rlb>i.e. clojure namespace some-namespace.somewhere ends up in some_namespace/somewhere.clj, fwiw. <rlb>...because jvm, I think (and guessing decades of cross-platform portability considerations) <old>rlb: Guess they were wrong of targeting JVM <old>Really weird that these 1960s things still leak in modern language lol <old>Because I guess it's really important to support `a+b` and so `a-b'must means a minus b instead of being an identifier <old>Could be worst I guess. Imagine having your files in PascalCase because <rlb>It *is* nice to be able to produce a jar that'll still work as-is 10+ years later on multiple platforms. Whether that's worth the tradeoffs that requires is another question. <rlb>I suspect it might have been filesystem related. <old>rlb: of course, backward compatibility is always nice <old>At least the unix world did not inherit the insanity from DOS <ieure>Well, time machines hadn't been invented yet. <old>7 letters file? And all the crap Microsoft pull with hungarian notation in a god dam typed language