<jgart>Hi! is there anything similar to interleave in guile's standard library? ***terpri_ is now known as terpri
<daviid>jgart: not 'std', but i wrote one, in grip <jgart>It would be great to get it in there <jgart>so I can just `guix install grip` <jgart>daviid, thanks for the code! I'll just snarf it for now <daviid>jgart: yes, at least the 'grip core' - the others, grip-sql and grip-clutter do not deserve to be i guix :):) [prob i will remove those actually] <jgart>is grip core a separate git repo? <daviid>jgart: no, but it won't install grip-sqlite if it doesn't find sqlite and won't install grip-clutter unless you'd have a bunch of things ... you may just try <daviid>fell free to just grab the interleave def ... <jgart>daviid, the dot in (interleave . lls) means that the procedure is variadic? <daviid>jgart: you may pass ore then two lists - see the manual entry i pasted above <jgart>I saw the manual. So I may pass any number of lists to be interleaved is my understanding <jgart>daviid, where is concatenate from in the function signature of interleave? <jgart>does guile have a way to let me know where a procedure came from if it was imported from another module? <daviid>,a interleave -| (grip list): interleave #<procedure interleave lls> <jgart>awesome! good one to know!! thanks so much daviid <daviid>it doen't seem to work for all procedures though, not sure why <daviid>others know better then myself things about the repl and geiser .. <jgart>not sure if that command is in the scope of what geiser already provides <jgart>I'm just wondering if geiser gives a similar functionality somewhere to what ,a does in guile <jgart>but no worries ,a is enough for me now... in a repl atleast <daviid>jgart: i don't know if geiser improves that (or not), i see it does work for (grip list) procedures, but for some reason, not for g-golf (another project i work on ...) <jgart>daviid, how do you generate the documentation for your guile projects? <jgart>I see it say "Powered by sxml" at the bottom of very page <jgart>I was just browsing the g-golf docs <daviid>jgart: the site is powered by sxml, the doc source code is texinfo, all format generated using a script (from aother gnu project) <jgart>guile's web module for the sxml? <jgart>daviid, do you know of any good resources to learn texinfo for documenting my guile projects? <jgart>besides the gnu manual for texinfo <daviid>the second quiz, just read the texinfo doc, even 'quiclky', it is very easy to read, then grab another project and 'copy' to start with ... <daviid>jgart: what is your guile project? just curious <jgart> daviid thank you for sharing all this! <jgart>I've checked out haunt. I'm planning to make a haunt site soon <jgart>My project is just getting started. I want to make a computer-assisted music composition environment with guile <daviid>jgart: great, you mauy look at the haunt site sourtce code, iself built using haunt, or guile website, guix as well ... for examples ... <jgart>similar to abjad.github.io or music-suite.github.io <daviid>cool, good luck - the first one use lilypond i tyhink <jgart>there is no project site at the moment. It is all vaporware until further notice. <daviid>jgart: lilypond manuals all use texinfo as well, fwiw ... <jgart>so texinfo supports lilypond snippets then? <daviid>so you may learn while still being 'swimming' in music domain ... <daviid>i think so, but you should register to their ML and ask there ... <daviid>correction, it is not that texinfo support 'anything but texinfo', it is that lilypond sites uses texinfo ... <jgart>given that I can just call those lilypond guile procedures directly since this music composition library is written in guile, what architectural decisions can I make in this computer-assisted music composition library? <jgart>these are some of the questions I'm trying to ask myself at the moment :) <jgart>daviid, thanks for the insight on their site <jgart>translating some of the object-oriented ideas of abjad to goops might be fun also <daviid>lilypond core is C++, but it is music type setting tool, not a composition tool - other projects propose to write in dif frmats, including lilypond ... <jgart>the embedded guile in lilypond is mostly used for tweaking the output of the score <daviid>jgart: i have to concetrate on other things - but happy to answer any guile quiz ... those composition and lily quyiz, should see 'with them' really ... they have an irc channel, but not very active, their ML is very very active ... <jgart>thanks daviid I'll have more guile questions soon. Thanks for introducing me to grip <jgart>In the way that haunt supports sxml in addition to markdown lilypond can have an alternative sxml syntax. <ManDay>How can I ,break on a procedure which is in a library? <ManDay>(I wrote the library and compiled it with --debug= <ManDay>ah ,break-at-source works (though ,cont will happily ignore it) <RhodiumToad>dsmith-work: it does depend on the value having been correctly sign-extended or zero-extended when being _loaded_ into the register, but that's also a requirement on ARM <dsmith-work>RhodiumToad: I thought it was going to be a *lot* more tricky than that. <RhodiumToad>(and architectures that don't require that also won't require that the high bits are correct on the stack) <dsmith-work>RhodiumToad: Looks like most of those switch cases can be collapsed into one. ***apteryx_ is now known as apteryx
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<g0d_shatter>what just happened in here that all of these accounts are renamed in one go? <RhodiumToad>looks like one user (apteryx) having a connection problem or broken script <g0d_shatter>well I just drop this and if anyone else has an idea I'm fresh out of solutions at the moment. I'm compiling gdb with the guile bindings on debian stable, and for whatever reason gdb will compile, with some of the bindings, but the guile libraries aren't there. <g0d_shatter>I feel like this is just a missing package of some kind? Even though I have guile-2.0-dev installed <g0d_shatter>yeah, there's still a blocking bug on gdb using 2.2, as far as I know <sneek>rlb was in #guile 4 days ago, saying: (In other news, *finally* got guile-2.0 removed from debian testing...). <g0d_shatter>dsmith-work: yeah by chance I found out about this two days ago, its removed from testing, but not stable, and the version of gdb is 8.2.1, so I'm not sure if that would be the problem per se <g0d_shatter>also, I've hit this exact same issue, where gdb will compile, but can't find guile libs, before, and I'm about to page thru my dev notebook to see if I remembered to write down how to fix it <dsmith-work>It sure would be nice if ldconfig was patched to ignore libguile-*.so.*-gdb.scm like it does some other files in lib/ <g0d_shatter>the configure command I'm using is ../configure --prefix=/usr --with-system-readline --with-guile and I'm wondering if by removing the --prefix=/usr it'll work, we're about to find out <dsmith-work>Contact the Swiss Army and borrow the strace knife. Usually sharp enought to the bottom of file-searching-and-loading issues. <g0d_shatter>out of curiousity what is the "ccache" directory in /usr/lib/x86-64-gnu/guile/2.0/ccache ? I'm not sure I've ever noticed this directory before <g0d_shatter>I feel like it would be easier to figure out how to get that patch for newer versions of guile going then continue to wrestle with these issues <g0d_shatter>I just dropped an email on the devel list, wanted to say thanks for the help and pointers today, excited to dig in and try to get a patch into gdb for a project I really care about <pkill9>str1ngs: how do you go to a new URL in nomad? <ArneBab>It’s woefully incomplete, but it provides `wispserve --serve ~/shared-videos`, serve the videos in range-requests so browsers work well, and lists all files.