<daviid>hello, i 'm confused, is it possible to install and use guile 2.2 on win64? <daviid>if yes, anyone would kindly know and share a mini 'howto'? or point to an existing oe maybe <nisstyre>daviid: I don't use windows but I expect with the right toolchain you could compile and run it with the Windows Subsystem for Linux <nisstyre>you might have to download some shared libraries first <daviid>nisstyre: i really need a step by step howto <nisstyre>if I used windows I might be able to write one <nisstyre>you could try compiling it and I'm sure this channel can help with specific problems like "how do I link to this library" or whatever <daviid>right, i hope someone can help, i have zero knowledge <nisstyre>maybe look up generic instructions for how to compile stuff on WSL <nisstyre>then try following the build instructions for Guile 2.2 <daviid>nisstyre: i ned a step by step for guile 2.2, that includes every step ... dowload this, type this, download that, type that ... done. open a terminal and type guile <nisstyre>there might be an easier way to do it with that <nisstyre>or you could boot up a virtual machine quite easily <nisstyre>then you'd just `apt-get install guile` or whatever in ubuntu <daviid>nisstyre: the person wh asked wanted to run guile in w64, not a vm <nisstyre>they would have to get docker for windows installed <nisstyre>but there are easy instructions for that I'm sure <daviid>nisstyre: wait, it does not sound that easy, seems it runs an ubutu in a 'closed' environmnent ... i am looking a stp by step to istall dependencies than compile guil 2.2 ... on w64 <nisstyre>daviid: yes that's right, docker can't run without some sort of compatibility layer, but it will let you run guile programs at least <nisstyre>and you can mount volumes and stuff to share data from windows <daviid>spk121: i see you wrote a series of patches ... wip-mingw-guile-2.2 is this for mingw or mingw64? would you hve such a 'howto' maybe? <daviid>nisstyre: that is not what i am looking for, but tx <daviid>i really hjope those who (have to) run guile on w64 can help <spk121>daviid: those patches allowed me to build a non-threaded 32-bit Guile on Windows 10 using mingw64/msys2. It was for a game jam I did <daviid>spk121: so if a user installs mingw64/msys2 does it has everything it needs, they can git clone that branch and run the kame danse? sorry, i have no idea about what needs to be installed 'out of mingw64 msys2' before to try to compile <daviid>that 32bit non-threaded would be a good start <spk121>Getting MinGW patches into core Guile has historically been difficult. Mark W used to give Eli Z endless notes on his MinGW patches, so I never even tried to push these MinGW patches into core Guile. Though most of my Cygwin patches are in. <spk121>daviid: well, it "works for me", so, probably. "./configure --without-threads" as I recall <daviid>i am very confused about mingw, mingw64, cygwin ... than what to install using those ... ? <spk121>definitely use mingw-w64.org over mingw, because mingw-w64 has a PacMan package manager to install prerequisites <spk121>But to be honest, if you've never done this before and you have no background w/MinGW it is going to be a bit complicated <daviid>spk121: it's not even for me, and i have no access to a w64 machine <daviid>i think i'll have to rewrite my stuff using kawa <spk121>daviid: I promised Vladimir Zhbanov that I'd make a new patches for Guile MinGW this week, so when I do, I'll send the instructions to guile-user <daviid>spk121: ok, from tha above link, what does a user needs to install? <spk121>not cygwin. yes msys2 because you need that to run configure. Then using the package manager, all the usual: autotools gcc make libffi libtool bdwgc libunistring libgmp. <spk121>I'm just going from memory right now, so I probably won't get it right. <nisstyre>wow I didn't know mingw shipped pacman with it <nisstyre>that's interesting, as someone who has been an Arch user for years <daviid>spk121: then they would run 'pacman -S autotools' ... 'pacman -S git' <spk121>daviid: that's how I remember it. It has been a year, so I'm sure I don't have the names of the packages right <daviid>spk121: ok, tx a lot, if happen to have the complete list of pacman commands somewhere, ping me ... tx <spk121>daviid: will do. I will send a complete set of instructions to guile-user for Vladimir this week, but, probably not today/tomorrow <daviid>spk121: ok, many thanks for that! *daviid secretly hopes one day we have a 64bits with threads running on w64 as well <bsima>why does (map display '(1 2)) print a list of #(unspecified) <janneke>daviid: fwiw, i have been using spk121's mingw branch in a guix cross build package <amz3>bsima: because display return an unspecified value <lloda>raise could be kill with optional argument or viceversa. Waste of a good name <heisenberg-25>Hi, is there a library function that does something similar to boost::bind in C++? <janneke>heisenberg-25: cut/cute from srfi-26? <lloda>cut doesn't let you reorder args tho <lloda>it's funny b/c since C++ got lambdas I don't use bind anymore <janneke>yeah, lambda would have done/does the job [in c/c++] <heisenberg-25>lloda: is there a library func to reoder the args? or should I write a wrapper procedure on top of cut to do that? <lloda>heisenberg-25: nothing standard I believe <lloda>I think the whole point of cut is to avoid naming the arguments, so if you need to do it might as well just use lambda *chrislck struggles to understand the meaning/benefit of pair-fold... anyone uses it productively? <lloda>I copied this from somewhere <lloda> (reverse! (pair-fold (lambda (a b) (cons (f a) b)) '() lis))) <lloda>I was using this to run over the segments of a polygon or something <lloda>I think it's only useful if you need to do something with the tails <lloda>for what I did with it I could have used (fold f l (cdr l) etc) <jcowan>IRC Time: It's morning when you start up in a channel, night when you leave, independent of either your local time or UTC. <chrislck>daviid guile-2.2 can absolutely be compiled on windows... after all GnuCash includes it <nly>how can i reset the get-u8 count on a binary port? <heisenberg-25>does (future proc) in (ice-9 futures) block or return immediate? Basically I want to start threads in a loop ***jao is now known as Guest82573
<nisstyre>does Guile not have immutable hash tables?