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<xvilka>good morning :)

<xvilka>I wonder, if there is something like "slimv" plugin for vim, but for guile?

<xvilka>I gave up rewriting program from owl-lisp to guile. TOO different, mutable tuples, special upcodes to get the reference, etc

<xvilka>:(

<xvilka>too much stuff to rewrite, sadly

<xvilka>*opcodes ofc

<slyfox>is it radamsa by chance? :)

<xvilka>slyfox: yup

<xvilka>slyfox: you know any _other_ software written in owl-lisp? :D

<slyfox>i don't! :)

<xvilka>but anyway, I gave up. Porting it will require rewriting more than 50% of code

<xvilka>easier to write something from scratch

<dsmith>Morning Greetings, Guilers

<wingo>moin

<janneke>hi!

<sneek>Welcome back janneke, you have 1 message.

<sneek>janneke, OriansJ says: You might find this interesting http://codon.com/compilers-for-free

<janneke>ACTION likes that, adding to stack

<Feufochmar>Hello. I have a problem with an http header incorrectly generated by guile 2.0 when sending a request.

<Feufochmar>I made a small example showing the problem here > http://vrac.feuforeve.fr/test.scm.txt

<meena>o/~ hi wingo

<wingo>hi :)

<wingo>sup?

<meena>re https://twitter.com/andywingo/status/851429498251866112 - i built on Ubuntu 16.10 / amd64 with ./autogen.sh && ./configure && make

<wingo>from the 2.2.0 release tarball?

<meena>the results sudo make install into /usr/local -- but /usr/local/bin/guile doesn't contain the (correct?) rpath for /usr/local/bin/libguile*

<meena>wingo: nope, git master

<wingo>cool

<meena>i actually just wanted to report some bug in firefox, but then one thing led to another…

<wingo>:-)

<wingo>& it's not an ldconfig issue then?

<meena>that's a good question, let me reinstall and see

<meena>hrm… i think… maybe… make uninstall might have done a bit too much

<wingo>humm! i hope that doesn't mean that it broke something :/

<meena>it's seems to be recompiling the whole thing

<wingo>i think we don't have any custom uninstall logic, it should be autotools' stuff which works fine afaiu

<meena>but now as root, because i did sudo make uninstall ; sudo make install

<wingo>humm

<meena>never mind, ignore me

<wingo>:)

<meena>wingo: the answer is, yes. i shoulda have run ldconfig

<meena>well, this is embarressing.

<wingo>it's easy to forget

<wingo>especially given the verbosity of things

<meena>and given how it takes some 14 hours for guile to compile itself xD

<wingo>lol yeah

<wingo>tarball builds are faster because they have prebuilt/ but yeah, terrible

<meena>¯\\(o_°)/¯

<meena>so, the other day i tried an old program of mine https://twitter.com/hirojin/status/631512092105932800 which i had written in racket back then, and it just worked™ in guile, but not in Chez Scheme, and i was wondering… why is racket porting to chez?

<wingo>meena: chez is faster :)

<wingo>currently anyway

<wingo>it's also got some interesting language facilities like submodules, etc

<wingo>& it's probably easier to appropriate right now, given that it's a bit orphaned in a way

<wingo>kindof a nice way for chez to live on tbh

<meena>hehe okay, yeah, makes sense (:

<meena>is there any more documentation on how to use these commands? https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/html_node/Help-Commands.html#Help-Commands

<meena>hrm… it appears that ,d only works on … not-builtins?

<meena>oh no, it just returns #f for things that don't really have …inline(?) docs

<dsmith>meena: Hmm. C funcs have the docstrings snarfed at build time and are stuffed into guile-procedures.txt

<dsmith>I think that's modeled after emacs.

<meena>basically, i'm looking for clojure's or pry's source & doc equivalent

<meena>my knowledge of ruby has leaped immensely when i discovered pry

<dsmith>sneek: guile help cons

<sneek>`cons' is a procedure in the (guile) module.

<sneek>- Scheme Procedure: cons x y

<sneek> Return a newly allocated pair whose car is X and whose cdr is Y.

<sneek> The pair is guaranteed to be different (in the sense of `eq?') from

<sneek> every previously existing object.

<dsmith>That's (help cons) IIRC

<dsmith>Yet that doens't seem to work in my 2.2

<meena>dsmith: lol, all i see is `(srfi srfi-1): cons`

<dsmith>Aww.

<dsmith>I think 2.2's help is brokeded

<paroneayea>at one point I think I heard wingo talk about being able to set tracepoints/backtraces automatically from geiser as in "set a trap on this line" or something

<paroneayea>am I remembering right?

<paroneayea>I don't know how to do that

<wingo>hello

<wingo>i think you can do that, i don't remember how tho

<wingo>check geiser manual :)

<paroneayea>I'm looking and not seeing it :)

<paroneayea>feeling a bit self-conscious about just using pk everywhere to debug, and guile having all these nice debugging tools, why am I not using them

<paroneayea>I'm not seeing a way to do it, but maybe it wouldn't be so hard to add?

<amz3`>o/

<handsome_pirate>paroneayea: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/jdulaney/8sync/build/538273/

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