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<nalaginrut>morning guilers~
<artyom-poptsov>Good morning, nalaginrut
<nalaginrut>haya
<nalaginrut>sneek: later tell ijp how about your scm2js project? ;-)
<sneek>Will do.
***michel_mno_afk is now known as michel_mno
<nalaginrut>I'm glad RMS announced 'free hardware' concept officially, I'm translating the article
<wleslie>where's this?
<nalaginrut> http://www.wired.com/2015/03/need-free-digital-hardware-designs/
<civodul>Hello Guilers!
<sneek>Welcome back civodul, you have 1 message.
<sneek>civodul, phant0mas says: I managed to make coreutils build succesfully for --target=i686-pc-gnu :-D
<civodul>yay!
<civodul>and does it run? :-)
<civodul>oops, ECHAN
<wingo>changes to the compiler IL are pretty painful to make :P
<dsmith-work>Happy Friday, Guilers!!
<civodul>yay, happy Friday!
<davexunit>happy friday indeed!
<davexunit>today is novena day!
<civodul>davexunit: you're receiving yours?
<davexunit>yup
<civodul>neat
<wleslie>looks cool
<wleslie>what's the FPGA like?
<wleslie>150k logic cells. sounds like funn
<wleslie>fun
<davexunit>no free fpga tool chain, however.
<davexunit>hoping novena enthusiasts can help fix that :)
<wleslie>it's an odd number to quote, you know. it would be more interesting to say, 500 slices each 300 wide.
<wleslie>spartan 6 lx seem to vary between 150k and 15k cells
<wleslie>or far less >_>
<hellekin>davexunit: https://github.com/m-labs/migen hsould be your next toy :)
<mark_weaver>wleslie: here are the details of the FPGA that comes with Novena: Spartan-6 CSG324-packaged FPGA (PVT uses LX45: 43k logic cells, 6.8k slices, 54.5k ff, 401kb distributed RAM, 58 DSP48A, 2088kb block RAM) — has several interfaces to the CPU, including a 2Gbit/s (peak) RAM-like bus
<mark_weaver>and there's a high-speed I/O expansion header connected to the FPGA
<mark_weaver>Novena is a free board design, so one could build a modified version
<dsmith-work>There are no free tools for Xilinx fpgas, right? And free tools for ANY fpga?
<dsmith-work>s/And/Any/
<please_help>there is for one specific brand I forget the name of
<mark_weaver>I recall hearing that there's one missing piece of the toolchain
<please_help>I posted a link a month or so ago about that I think
<mark_weaver> https://github.com/Wolfgang-Spraul/fpgatools/blob/master/README
<dsmith-work>We use xilinx stuff, and we are always having problems with tools and drivers (for things like microblaze inside and fpga)
<hellekin>since we're into drifting towards FPGA goodness: http://m-labs.hk/artiq/
<dsmith-work>"I have to postpone fpgatools development probably until 2014"
<davexunit>wow the novena board is tiny
<davexunit>I knew it was pretty small but it's even tinier than I thought.
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<davexunit>hellekin: neat link
<davexunit>thanks
<davexunit>except for the whole Python part ;)
<daviid`>the novema laptop seems really nice as well ?
<davexunit>yeah the "laptop" version is nice. I opted for the expensive, but less expensive, desktop version.
<davexunit>so, no battery board, basically.
<daviid`>sure, i understand
<daviid`>nice but really way too expensive for me
<davexunit>yeah, it's very expensive, but there's nothing else like it.
<davexunit>and since I had some extra money, I wanted to support the project.
<daviid`>cool!
<davexunit>the world needs more projects like these
<daviid`>1+
<davexunit>first thing after I boot it: sudo apt-get install guile
<daviid`>of course!
<daviid`>haha
*daviid` is working on a guile-gnome-2.m4 series of macros, almost equal to guile.m4, so he and other guile-gnome developers will be able integrate their apps with the tool chain
<daviid`>s/tool/autools
<daviid`>davexunit: no usb 3.0 right? [in your new toy]
<davexunit>I don't think so...
<davexunit>need to check the specs again
<Zerock>Anyone here use GNU Artanis? I want to know if there's an API call to get the request source's IP address so I can echo it back to them.