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<ArneBab>Work-in-Progress article on my path from Python to Guile Scheme: http://draketo.de/proj/py2guile/ thanks to the latest wisp-mode fix (broken regexp) export works now
<dsfsdfs>hello
<dsfsdfs>is it possible to create a record that would accept only a certain type (say, also a record) as an argument?
<dsfsdfs>Here's an example that shows the idea: http://dpaste.com/1651793/plain/ Though, it doesn't do the right thing.
<cluck>:)
<madsy>It's been quiet here this weekend
<cluck>i couldn't connect yesterday, i think freenode might have been under ddos, so there's that
<mark_weaver>I couldn't connect yesterday either.
<mark_weaver>madsy: which port of pthreads did you use in your windows build of guile?
<stis>Hmm why on earth would anyone spend resoerces to ddos freenode?
<madsy>stis: No idea.
<madsy>mark_weaver: pthreads-w32
<madsy>mark_weaver: https://www.sourceware.org/pthreads-win32/
<madsy>mark_weaver: I built v2.9.1 myself
<mark_weaver>ah, thanks!
<mark_weaver>madsy: also, which version of libgc did you use? did you build it from source?
<stis>Hmm, if you know physics and mathematics, I can give you an intersting task,
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<stis>Find out how Randi Mills at Black Light power can calculate for example the g-factor.
<stis>Where does he cheat?
<stis>For a reference see http://www.blacklightpower.com/theory-2/book/book-download/
<stis>He sure beats me and every one I asked! Pretty interesting!
<mark_weaver>I know physics and mathematics, and I don't even know what "the g-factor" is.
<mark_weaver>I don't want to read a book to find out what you're talking about, though.
<stis>You do not need to, only if you are curious, I'll give you a short pointer ...
<stis>Mill's make a lot predictions of energy states (1000ths of them) by a new kind of model of the atom physics.
<stis>They are probably the most exact theoretical formulas you can get, and it is fishy.
<stis>I pickled th eg-factor and traced his calculations, it is indeed starting from the base assumption and uses normal physics to draw
<stis>the conclusion. But I'm not an expert soo I can have missed something.
<stis>I asked a physists and he replied that if this has not been taken seriously for 20 years it has to be junk.
<mark_weaver>ah, well, that would take a lot of time, and I'm rusty on this stuff anyway. I should stay focused on Guile and Guix for now.
<stis>The problem is that there is no trace of why it is junk ion the intertubes. Only really dumb objections
<madsy>mark_weaver: Which version of libgc? Err.. I don't remember which one I ended up with
<mark_weaver>okay.
<stis>only do it if you are curious, at least he will answer how the atom whorks quite intuitively, better than
<stis>the TV shoows (I would say) about our basic laws
<cluck>stis: here, go watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM9hH3suOpo it's sound and a better use of your time too. in this house we respect the laws of thermodynamics
<stis>cluck: now law of theromodynamics id broken!
<stis>cluck: where did you get that from?
<cluck>my news feed
<madsy>mark_weaver: Maybe I can query guile for the version? I can start my windows guile and check the gc version if it's important
<stis>cluck: Well you should reand Mills sans hydrinos, his hydrino theory can be based on a simple misintyerpretation of his math
<mark_weaver>madsy: thanks, but I don't know how to find that out from guile.
<madsy>mark_weaver: Ah, derp. I just checked the includes. It's 7.2
<mark_weaver>ah, great, thanks!
<madsy>mark_weaver: Oh, and I got my OpenGL 4 in guile working, with docstrings and all.
<mark_weaver>madsy: eliz also asked "which MinGW?"
<mark_weaver>that's good news!
<stis>cluck: basically it is unclear if his condition for a physical energy is if and only if
<mark_weaver>I didn't even know there was more than one MinGW. I'm not sure if he meant which version, or if there are multiple forks.
<madsy>`i686-w64-mingw32-gcc --version` says i686-w64-mingw32-gcc (GCC) 4.6.3
<madsy>The executable I built was for 64-bit Windows
<stis>anyway thanks fro your work on guile, madsy: mark_weaver:, I'll poke on with the prolog stuff!
<mark_weaver>madsy: thanks!
<cluck>stis: i've read about it before, it's fishy, last i looked his generator was vaporware, his work had proprietary bits and the company was looking for funding "for an experimental device", maybe i'm just an old risk averse codger but if you ask me those three together sound like the classic free energy con
<madsy>brb, out getting food :)
<stis>cluck: from my understanding you are correct, as I said, his hydrinos i him missinterpretting his own math because he is so successful elsewere
<stis>Else his theory is really interseting. If I would be him I would focus on what is provvable, but his up in the blue unfourtunately.
<stis>Really all people have the wrong focus!
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